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greetings and salutations friends old

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friends and hopefully some new friends

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and welcome back to truth seekers

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our guest uh rachel hoffman is standing

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by in our green room

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and uh i'm so delighted and excited to

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talk to her tonight you may remember

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that we did an interview with her all

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about her paranormal expeditions

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and adventures into

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paranormal events and ghosts

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since then she has embarked on a new

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career of sorts as a horror movie scream

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and i've been watching her adventures in

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movie land with great interest and i'm

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so pleased and delighted and excited to

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welcome her tonight

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into our show here so without further

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ado ladies and gentlemen let's please

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welcome our fantastic guest tonight

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rachel hoffman

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i'm so glad you're here hi thank you so

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much i it's been a while but we have a

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lot to catch up on

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yeah i've been watching your facebook

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and i can't believe some of the pictures

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and adventures that you've had in the

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past i don't know it's been a little

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over a year since we really talked

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yeah i'm selfish i don't talk offline

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with people like you i say no come on

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the show and we'll just talk and share

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it so that my friends can you know come

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along with us for the adventure

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i love it yeah save it all up and

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let it all out on on the show that's the

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best way to do it and you know um some

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of my friends i talk to like every day

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some of my friends i talked to every

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like 30 years so

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i just sold

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you're much easier on the eyes than me

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so you know i i i i wanted to though to

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give people who may have missed your

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first interview some background into how

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you got started with these paranormal

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and the ghost hunting and things like

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that before you got into the movie

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yeah definitely um well i have

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definitely had a lot of spiritual

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experiences since i was young

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and i lived on a patch of land that

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much going on and still actually doesn't

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and i actually saw well i had an

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imaginary friend and so i was actually

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this is one of my favorite this is one

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of my favorite paranormal stories ever i

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tell everybody about this girl on my

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go ahead this is a great this is just i

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just want to tell everybody this is one

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of my favorite stories because it's so

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the world really works this way we live

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in a very interesting world

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tell us about your friend your imaginary

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friend when you were a child

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so her name is mae baldeo she's three

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they flipped it over we had to scrape

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the moss off of it and you can see it

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and um she was you know she's still my

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friend i still catch her on some of my

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family's there but they were indigent so

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best they could to um

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you know memorialize the grave and they

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had you know people come out and do the

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letters on the grave

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so it says just

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d-a-t-e-r but you get the point you know

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you know that she's there

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her and she was just amazing and she

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really opened me up to

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everything and that's that's the reason

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and you said that you still have some

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sometimes you still pick her up on some

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of the equipment that you have and and

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do you feel her presence still

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i turned on my um

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digital recorder and actually she said

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ever on like my ghost equipment when i

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finally got it i was like i'm gonna turn

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this on and see

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you know they say not to really use it

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in your house but i was like i'm just

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gonna i was sitting in my living room

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you know i was like oh let's see what's

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going on and i turned it on and she was

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like rachel and i recognized her voice

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and the interesting thing is is she's

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almost matured over the years like she

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was three when she passed away

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but she's much older now mature wise

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like she's able to like

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speak and respond she's intelligent it's

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just it's amazing because even though we

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change shape we don't stop learning and

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yeah i'm sorry you're gonna have to

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forgive me too because i have a bit of a

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cold luckily it's not covered but uh

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and you know i haven't been sick in like

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two years so i can't complain but i've

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got a terrible cold and sore throat but

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i've got all this tea with hot you know

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honey and i'll i'll be fine i don't want

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to cancel on yet but i do feel terrible

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but i feel better now seeing you and

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knowing that you're here because yeah i

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totally understand i've got so many

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i don't know if you know it but i was in

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a few in the horror movies but they

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didn't go well and one of them i spent a

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great deal time on and the guy never

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even finished it

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yeah and that's a terrible pill to

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swallow when you get into these indie

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films because yeah in my case i traveled

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three states away from me for like six

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weekends to do this and i was so excited

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like i'm gonna be in a movie and then

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the movie never really happened but you

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have a much more reputable filmmaker can

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you tell us a little bit about the

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filmmaker that you've been working with

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and how you guys hooked up and

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yes we have um josh graves that we just

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finished the house that he's flesh and

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it was i got the trailer can we play the

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trailer

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yeah i do have it yeah i have it from

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it's on youtube right the house that

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eats flesh yeah it is it is yeah um it's

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pretty amazing uh everybody worked

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amazing um

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the production team was incredible

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you know we we got thrown a few punches

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during the filming

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rolled with punches

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came out so i once had to do a whole new

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there was bullfrogs

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microphones so they made us reshoot a

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whole bunch like a whole weekend's worth

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of stuff i was so mad

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oh my gosh yeah like yeah audio is

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important

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yeah you guys have it got hit with some

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curveballs these are the the pitfalls of

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trying to make movies especially when

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you don't have like you know billion

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dollar budgets like some people right

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yeah and now um you know in the indie

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world you have to wait to be paid till

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after the production has finished and

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yeah maybe i'll get some money someday

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for this right and so it's it's very

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common um post production costs quite a

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campaigns you know to get the production

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covered completely

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but um when when you're not bound to the

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agreement because you're not necessarily

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being paid for a long time some people

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aren't in a position to leave their job

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six weeks in a row you know what i mean

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and then there's a flake out factor i've

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been involved in some things where the

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character we had to reshoot because the

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guy who was playing this part bailed out

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halfway through and couldn't do it

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anymore so now we got a new guy and then

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we got to go back and but i love this i

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love this idea of indie film production

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i want to do some myself i want to try

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it myself because i love this just get

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some good cameras get a group of good

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people together and make a great story

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right yeah that's the biggest thing and

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i started um i just recently started my

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own production company because of that

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um you know i i like dependable people

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and i know that um that i have to build

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a crew of people that i trust and that

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i can live with almost because that's

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what it takes

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you have to

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cohabitate with people

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it's not easy

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yeah this is this is this is the but

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it's also so isn't it like part of the

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fun of that you there's this camaraderie

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and you guys are all this mission

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together i had one project that went

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really well that i felt like this was

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worth doing even just for the experience

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of doing it and i don't care what

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happens you know

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yeah i i've had that yeah i've walked

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away with a lot of people that are like

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family to me so it's been really great

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like i've had a lot of great experiences

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and

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also a lot of traumatic experiences like

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i had the

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movie axe to grind that i was in and it

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was a dumpster fire really

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and it was

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i saw some of that so what happened with

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you you were posting pictures you were

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filming for this movie axe to grind for

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a long time

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yeah after grind and um go straight to

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how both of them i had been working on

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for a long for a year and i've been

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advertising my investors had put in

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money to

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make this movie come to fruition

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and so

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when i got there um actually one of the

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individuals that paid to be my boyfriend

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on the movie because i was basically

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like auctioned off a little

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wait a minute wait you gotta back up so

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a guy paid money to be in the movie so

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that he could be your boyfriend in a

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movie he invested some money

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yeah two guys did two guys paid six

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thousand and then i got there and like

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there was two guys that were supposed to

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be my boyfriend and the movie was like

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ever changing it like the script was

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like changing like the labyrinth it was

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crazy like

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so i got there and i was supposed to be

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like hi my name's honey voodoo you know

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what you mean like and that just didn't

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even happen like there was a lot of

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distraction the guy that was paid to be

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my boyfriend on the set was actually my

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stalker

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and so they wouldn't ask him to leave

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the set i felt uncomfortable and unsafe

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and he brought prop guns and one of them

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was a regular gun a real gun

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and i felt really uncomfortable um so

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i was putting an unfortunate situation

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there you know what i mean

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and uh we were all kind of

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just we we were put under uh the wrong

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impression that someone had the skills

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that they didn't have to be able to make

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this movie happen

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and you know it's the situation that's

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the situation that i was in it turned

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out that this person you have to have a

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vision they just woke up one day and

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said they're going to be a director and

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i didn't know i didn't know like i just

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and and it was terrible because i

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invested a lot of time energy and

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passion into doing this thing and then

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just totally

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the whole thing just fell apart and you

329
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get nothing to get nothing for it

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except i one thing i did learn is to ask

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to see the resume and films you've made

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like because yeah i have a friend in

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philadelphia and they did a film in

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philadelphia called center city and i

335
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just did a small part but in that case i

336
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could ask him can i see some films that

337
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you've made and he sent me a whole list

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so i said there's a high likelihood that

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if he's doing a film he's going to

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finish it this time so i learned a

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lesson and you move forward you know

342
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yeah definitely and i've had people even

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play me like that like they so you could

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be like you could go get people coffee

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on a set and say you're a part of a

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movie like doesn't matter you mean that

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you're part of a responsible piece of

348
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the movie like i was i was extra i was

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an extra in rocky iv but you don't see

350
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me anywhere in the movie and i tried

351
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like hell to see me i i you know

352
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yeah

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cappuccino girl you were in the girl

354
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ghostbusters nicole one yeah and i

355
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recognized you in that and i laughed

356
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when i see that yeah yeah

357
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that's so funny yeah i was actually in

358
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it for like 14 days so if you look at it

359
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and you put it on a couple of cameos

360
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yeah right yeah and my hair changes

361
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lengths because i like i was there for

362
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like a couple weeks it was crazy

363
00:19:03,750 --> 00:19:00,960
um yeah that was a lot of fun there um

364
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so but yeah still chaotic still dramatic

365
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still had my haters like trying to rip

366
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me down from the set and it was funny

367
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because um

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someone had someone had lied about me

369
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and said that i was posting behind the

370
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scenes pictures to try to get me kicked

371
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off the set

372
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and so instead what it did was the

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director called me

374
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and i was like i don't have any pictures

375
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up like that and so he was embarrassed

376
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he felt bad and the next day i saw him

377
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at breakfast and we were like he came

378
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and sat across from me and i was like

379
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you know

380
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i was just like freaking out

381
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yeah so no but he was like so do you

382
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want to come back

383
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because that was my last day and i was

384
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like

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murray have just doubled at this point

386
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you know

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so um

388
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i heard rumors that he was going to be

389
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on i never actually did meet him but i

390
00:19:58,230 --> 00:19:56,400
came back those that don't know on a

391
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hollywood set you're not allowed to take

392
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any pictures and post them on social

393
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media it's usually in a contract yeah

394
00:20:15,510 --> 00:20:12,950
this ghostbuster girl film is top secret

395
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and we can't have any leaks of this one

396
00:20:19,029 --> 00:20:17,120
you know

397
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i think that film was

398
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i'm looking forward to the new one

399
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yeah me too me too and you know i

400
00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:25,039
thought it was it was a funny spin they

401
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had a lot of good ghosts and stuff in

402
00:20:29,029 --> 00:20:27,840
the girl one

403
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um

404
00:20:32,789 --> 00:20:31,200
i understand people's feeling about like

405
00:20:35,830 --> 00:20:32,799
how it was like lingering in the air

406
00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:35,840
with no you know like without the thread

407
00:20:39,750 --> 00:20:38,000
that attached it to the last story but

408
00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:39,760
honestly like i just loved it i thought

409
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it was a lot of fun i i was incredibly

410
00:20:45,750 --> 00:20:43,760
it was i thought it was i thought it was

411
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well made like the special effects were

412
00:20:48,950 --> 00:20:47,600
good i thought the actresses did a great

413
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job but i thought the writing was

414
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terrible like all they had to do was

415
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make one of those girls related to one

416
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of the original characters or or do

417
00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:57,520
something more to connect the dots it

418
00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:00,240
was just like you were thrown in and

419
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yeah and when bill murray heard the

420
00:21:07,510 --> 00:21:04,880
outrage from it he actually wrote

421
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himself into it as the

422
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as the individual that he was in the

423
00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:11,840
story

424
00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:13,840
so it was really trying to support them

425
00:21:18,470 --> 00:21:16,080
he did try to be supportive of them and

426
00:21:20,149 --> 00:21:18,480
absolutely yeah and i mean i understand

427
00:21:22,870 --> 00:21:20,159
people are diehards you know like they

428
00:21:24,070 --> 00:21:22,880
want to they want to hear like the

429
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the

430
00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:26,080
every little detail about you know how

431
00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:27,760
the story connects and stuff and i get

432
00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:28,640
it but

433
00:21:32,789 --> 00:21:30,400
it was fun and it was like one of those

434
00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:32,799
things but yeah so what that p that

435
00:21:36,710 --> 00:21:34,720
person whoever it was trying to throw me

436
00:21:38,950 --> 00:21:36,720
under the bus for something i didn't do

437
00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:38,960
actually like got me rewarded with

438
00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:40,799
another two weeks on that

439
00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:43,120
you got another couple paychecks so you

440
00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:45,520
thank that person

441
00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:47,200
and it was also amazing i mean they were

442
00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:49,679
14-hour days and it was freezing in

443
00:21:52,870 --> 00:21:50,960
boston and they were trying to make it

444
00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:52,880
look like new york city

445
00:21:57,830 --> 00:21:55,840
so we were in the streets in boston and

446
00:21:59,590 --> 00:21:57,840
they were soaking the streets and we

447
00:22:02,070 --> 00:21:59,600
were free like they were hitting us with

448
00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:02,080
water it's awful

449
00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:04,080
it was so cold

450
00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:06,400
yeah and so these other indie films

451
00:22:10,149 --> 00:22:08,159
though you know like i said sometimes

452
00:22:12,310 --> 00:22:10,159
they just kind of fall apart so you you

453
00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:12,320
kind of have you but you know what i

454
00:22:15,909 --> 00:22:14,000
want to tell you i want to i want to

455
00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:15,919
tell you don't stop swinging because

456
00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:17,360
you're not going to hit that home run

457
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:18,880
unless you keep swinging and you got to

458
00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:21,120
be willing to strike out and i've had a

459
00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:23,760
few that just didn't go anywhere it's

460
00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:26,400
disappointing and it's discouraging but

461
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:28,240
you gotta you did you dusted yourself

462
00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:29,760
off you got yourself in another movie

463
00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:32,240
that did get made so yeah there you go

464
00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:34,640
definitely yeah so yeah so i'm very

465
00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:36,960
excited about that and then you know i

466
00:22:40,710 --> 00:22:38,480
have my recent experience with go

467
00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:40,720
straight to hell and unfortunately like

468
00:22:43,669 --> 00:22:42,400
you know there was the drama on the set

469
00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:43,679
there where

470
00:22:49,270 --> 00:22:47,120
um in the last few days uh filming there

471
00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:49,280
was you know threats to my safety and

472
00:22:53,430 --> 00:22:51,440
things like that so we're looking at the

473
00:22:54,630 --> 00:22:53,440
prospect of going back and finishing the

474
00:22:57,510 --> 00:22:54,640
last three

475
00:22:59,830 --> 00:22:57,520
days of filming for that uh the set date

476
00:23:01,750 --> 00:22:59,840
for that is 2022. so

477
00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:01,760
i'm hoping that cooler heads

478
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:03,520
yeah hopefully cooler heads will prevail

479
00:23:07,110 --> 00:23:05,360
i mean these guys you guys already

480
00:23:08,710 --> 00:23:07,120
invested so much time and energy and

481
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:08,720
they probably have 90

482
00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:11,280
percent of it done or yeah it's it's

483
00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:13,360
literally there's three scenes left look

484
00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:14,960
good from what i saw you guys were

485
00:23:19,270 --> 00:23:17,280
posting pictures and and i just like the

486
00:23:21,190 --> 00:23:19,280
idea of that go straight to hell you

487
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:21,200
know like yeah

488
00:23:25,669 --> 00:23:23,760
yeah it is cool you know like it's it's

489
00:23:27,430 --> 00:23:25,679
to me like i could really grasp onto the

490
00:23:29,990 --> 00:23:27,440
story because some of the people that

491
00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:30,000
were paying for their sins were

492
00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:33,600
um judges and doctors and you know like

493
00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:37,360
there's a there's a certain degree of um

494
00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:38,640
deserving

495
00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:40,320
being drag state to hell yeah it's

496
00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:42,400
justified it's not it's not like you're

497
00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:43,919
just taking innocent people and

498
00:23:47,909 --> 00:23:45,760
torturing them these are people right

499
00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:47,919
the movie shows why they deserve they

500
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:50,080
might deserve this fate at the end of

501
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:52,240
the day right yes and right now i'm

502
00:23:56,549 --> 00:23:54,240
doing a television spin-off of the ghost

503
00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:56,559
race to hell series so

504
00:24:02,470 --> 00:23:57,919
i can spit that one more time go

505
00:24:06,070 --> 00:24:04,230
we have the house that eats flesh

506
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:06,080
trailer i'm going to embarrass him oh

507
00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:07,200
yeah you can pop that out i was

508
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:08,640
surprised to see your character because

509
00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:10,799
it wasn't what i expected i i yeah i

510
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:13,200
know i i think a lot of people you know

511
00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:14,000
yeah

512
00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:16,000
not the typical blonde me

513
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:18,960
yeah but it's still cool and it's very

514
00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:20,640
it's still very interesting to me it

515
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:22,559
made me want to see the movie more

516
00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:24,640
seeing your character who's kind of like

517
00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:27,200
scarred and deformed a little bit

518
00:24:30,549 --> 00:24:29,440
and uh yeah very very interesting so

519
00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:30,559
we're going to share this i'm going to

520
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:32,799
cite fair use

521
00:24:35,350 --> 00:24:34,240
even though we have one of the stars of

522
00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:35,360
this movie here we're still going to

523
00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:37,039
cite fair use this is a transformative

524
00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:38,720
work we're educating the public about

525
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:40,880
the house that eats flesh rachel's

526
00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:42,720
newest film that she has been involved

527
00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:46,720
in uh let's take a watch friends

528
00:24:53,110 --> 00:24:50,480
we're all killers aren't we

529
00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:53,120
is it all nature to kill

530
00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:54,240
my

531
00:25:08,230 --> 00:24:59,360
someone might be careful when i get that

532
00:25:13,029 --> 00:25:10,070
very nice very interesting that makes me

533
00:25:15,110 --> 00:25:13,039
want to see it more really

534
00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:15,120
yeah it was a lot of great kill scenes i

535
00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:18,400
i must say um even on the fly uh they

536
00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:19,919
had come up with some stuff because we

537
00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:22,480
had some people not unable to show up

538
00:25:26,789 --> 00:25:24,559
for different reasons and you know how

539
00:25:28,870 --> 00:25:26,799
that goes too

540
00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:28,880
so there was a lot of interesting kills

541
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:30,400
that came out of that

542
00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:31,840
and a lot of people are like oh my god

543
00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:32,960
i'm so upset that you didn't make it on

544
00:25:38,470 --> 00:25:35,120
the poster i'm like actually i'm on the

545
00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:38,480
poster that intestine is mine

546
00:25:43,029 --> 00:25:41,120
so part of you made it in yeah this one

547
00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:43,039
reminds me of a few things the trailer

548
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:45,279
reminded me of i think wasn't it jason

549
00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:47,520
before the hockey mask he had just this

550
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:49,200
the thing over his head kind of like

551
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:50,080
this

552
00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:53,520
yeah reminded me of jason the very first

553
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:55,360
uh friday the 13th

554
00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:57,360
and then this also for some reason it

555
00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:58,960
reminded me of the hills that have eyes

556
00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:00,720
like this strange

557
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:04,000
family of killer weirdos you know yeah

558
00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:06,720
it's super creepy it was like it was

559
00:26:13,029 --> 00:26:09,279
super intense and it was just amazing

560
00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:13,039
how the the group of actors it just

561
00:26:16,789 --> 00:26:14,960
bravo they were saying yeah it looks

562
00:26:19,029 --> 00:26:16,799
like a good cast it looked like it was

563
00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:19,039
really good we all jived really well

564
00:26:23,830 --> 00:26:21,120
together so it was really it was a great

565
00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:23,840
cast in the house we had so much fun i

566
00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:25,760
guess it was better experience than some

567
00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:27,360
of your previous ones that didn't go so

568
00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:29,360
well so that's good right yeah well the

569
00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:30,640
one that

570
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:33,039
the last one was good until it wasn't

571
00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:34,559
you know

572
00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:36,640
i was there for six weeks and i was only

573
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:40,240
supposed to be there for 72 more hours

574
00:26:44,310 --> 00:26:42,960
and so like i really like that that was

575
00:26:45,830 --> 00:26:44,320
kind of the most heartbreaking thing was

576
00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:45,840
to kind of make it to home stretch like

577
00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:46,720
that

578
00:26:56,549 --> 00:26:53,760
insane but um

579
00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:56,559
but that is that that's not part of my

580
00:27:01,110 --> 00:26:59,919
makeup to accept uh something like that

581
00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:01,120
you know what i mean especially not

582
00:27:04,230 --> 00:27:02,640
being a part of it though i was so

583
00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:04,240
in-depth and part of it

584
00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:06,480
um but it's up to the production and up

585
00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:08,080
to the new investors what they want to

586
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:10,799
do with the remaining um scenes for that

587
00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:12,400
and hopefully they recover it because

588
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:14,080
it's you know we did we put a lot of

589
00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:16,000
work into it so and it's easily

590
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:18,640
recovered you know it's only the last

591
00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:20,960
couple little things we have to do so

592
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:23,440
it's more about cooperation and

593
00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:26,240
respect you know i'm a female in the in

594
00:27:29,669 --> 00:27:27,840
the industry and that's really hard for

595
00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:29,679
a couple people to

596
00:27:33,269 --> 00:27:31,440
take into consideration but it's

597
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:33,279
unfortunate you know i put my foot down

598
00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:34,480
here and there and

599
00:27:38,630 --> 00:27:35,919
and be the mother

600
00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:38,640
you know yeah i've seen i've i've seen

601
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:41,039
i've seen women incredibly mistreated on

602
00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:42,640
some of these kind of projects and it's

603
00:27:46,549 --> 00:27:44,720
unfortunate you know but i think that

604
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:46,559
attitudes towards that kind of stuff is

605
00:27:50,789 --> 00:27:48,559
really changing and women are getting a

606
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:50,799
bigger voice because it's it looks like

607
00:27:55,269 --> 00:27:52,480
a lot of the old

608
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:55,279
old boys club stuff and casting couch

609
00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:58,000
crap and stuff like that is going away

610
00:28:02,549 --> 00:27:59,919
and it has to it

611
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,559
it is and what isn't isn't being talked

612
00:28:06,070 --> 00:28:04,320
about that's what's going on is that a

613
00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:06,080
lot of people aren't coming out of this

614
00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:08,000
a lot of actresses i mean much like

615
00:28:11,669 --> 00:28:10,000
myself like it sucks to be blacklisted

616
00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:11,679
because you're talking about the

617
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:14,559
misbehaviors behind the scenes and so

618
00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:16,240
that's a risk you have to be willing to

619
00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:17,760
take when you're calling people out for

620
00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:19,600
their bad behavior which i'm going to

621
00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:20,960
every single time there's not going to

622
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:23,600
be a time back for you i'm not going to

623
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:25,200
believe them

624
00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:27,360
tell people what she thinks though but i

625
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:29,039
like that i like that about you and

626
00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:30,880
you're fierce and you're bold than you

627
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:32,720
and you're not afraid to like tell it

628
00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:34,720
like it is and sometimes you have to

629
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:37,600
like yeah if you can save somebody

630
00:28:42,070 --> 00:28:39,760
yeah and why would you be mistreated as

631
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:42,080
an actress or just as a person when

632
00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:44,000
there's other people that are doing

633
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:45,360
projects that would treat you with

634
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:48,080
respect and dignity that you deserve

635
00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:50,080
yeah exactly so that's why that's my

636
00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:51,840
plate right now is to find people that

637
00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:53,520
are serious about making movies and

638
00:28:57,029 --> 00:28:56,080
making projects and passionate

639
00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:57,039
and

640
00:29:02,149 --> 00:28:59,600
again um you know in the indie world we

641
00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:02,159
tend to have to you know cohabitate and

642
00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:04,080
that's something i really am

643
00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:05,279
kind of put

644
00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:07,360
in the bud like i want to take a tour

645
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:10,320
bus to people from now on and kind of

646
00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:12,640
just be on my own and just have my own

647
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:14,799
space it's difficult to be

648
00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:17,200
around people all the time 100 of the

649
00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:18,080
time

650
00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:21,919
and i had 77 people on that set

651
00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:23,039
in

652
00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:26,880
four weeks so it was a very short yeah

653
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:28,559
for those who don't know rachel has a

654
00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:31,760
converted school bus that's interesting

655
00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:34,159
uh a school bus that is converted into

656
00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:37,520
an rv that she lovingly little bit but

657
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:39,840
kind of like my cabin little pieces by

658
00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:41,679
little pieces put this

659
00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:44,000
incredible school bus together are you

660
00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:46,480
do you live there or is it like parked i

661
00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:47,840
don't live there

662
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:53,200
bnb for a short time and just to kind of

663
00:29:57,669 --> 00:29:55,840
um i had some issues again i have had my

664
00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:57,679
stalker that was local that came off the

665
00:30:01,830 --> 00:29:59,440
set from oklahoma

666
00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:01,840
um i had to kind of

667
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:05,120
seek safety after a while um you know

668
00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:06,720
because i feared for my safety

669
00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:09,200
unfortunately i could only

670
00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:10,799
get a piece of paper in between me and

671
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:12,720
this individual who frightens the hell

672
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:14,080
out of me so

673
00:30:17,269 --> 00:30:15,840
it was uh

674
00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:17,279
scary for me

675
00:30:21,029 --> 00:30:19,200
yeah i had to like give up my dream home

676
00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:21,039
because of it but um but it's only for a

677
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:23,760
short time you know like i i will find

678
00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:25,600
that again and everything will be okay

679
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:26,399
but

680
00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:28,480
for for a short period of time i felt my

681
00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:30,640
safety was in danger and i just wanted

682
00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:32,880
to make sure that you know i kind of

683
00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:35,039
took the measures to

684
00:30:39,430 --> 00:30:36,799
i'd

685
00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:39,440
yeah and i don't blame you because uh

686
00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:41,760
you know people can be obsessive and

687
00:30:46,389 --> 00:30:44,480
weird and crazy and you know i see it

688
00:30:48,789 --> 00:30:46,399
and i'm not female i'm sure that for

689
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:48,799
females is sometimes worse so these guys

690
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:49,679
get

691
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:51,840
like you know

692
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:53,840
just obsessed right with every little

693
00:30:57,190 --> 00:30:55,440
thing that you're doing and then it

694
00:30:59,909 --> 00:30:57,200
could turn into a dangerous situation

695
00:31:02,470 --> 00:30:59,919
very quickly i think i get heart i get

696
00:31:04,149 --> 00:31:02,480
harmless crazy people you know they're

697
00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:04,159
not gonna they're not gonna they're not

698
00:31:08,470 --> 00:31:05,679
gonna come to my home or anything

699
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,480
they're just gonna send me 800 emails

700
00:31:11,909 --> 00:31:10,559
you know or something yeah well i think

701
00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:11,919
when this guy

702
00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:16,880
me my boyfriend he took it and mentally

703
00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:18,960
that he was my boyfriend

704
00:31:22,389 --> 00:31:20,240
that like oh

705
00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:22,399
wow i didn't know it was that guy

706
00:31:27,909 --> 00:31:25,360
yeah it was that guy like it's so bad

707
00:31:29,509 --> 00:31:27,919
like i some people are like so what did

708
00:31:31,110 --> 00:31:29,519
you do to deserve this i'm like i never

709
00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:31,120
held his hand i never touched him i

710
00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:32,960
never kissed him i never like i'll show

711
00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:34,399
you the messages between him and i am

712
00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:36,080
like look buddy we're just friends like

713
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:37,600
there's never going to be anything

714
00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:40,320
between us like anything ever and he was

715
00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:42,640
writing to like my producer when they

716
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:44,240
were writing him into the story for his

717
00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:46,399
6 000 donation

718
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:48,480
and he was saying stuff like am i gonna

719
00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:50,720
have any love making scenes with rachel

720
00:31:55,029 --> 00:31:53,440
and like all this crazy crap he was

721
00:31:57,669 --> 00:31:55,039
trying to negotiate what is he getting

722
00:31:59,830 --> 00:31:57,679
for six thousand dollars right

723
00:32:02,549 --> 00:31:59,840
yeah and i just wasn't sure what what

724
00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:02,559
that whole thing was all about well they

725
00:32:05,830 --> 00:32:04,240
wound up writing honey voodoo in the

726
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:05,840
story without a boyfriend because once

727
00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:07,440
they met me and they actually got to

728
00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:08,960
know my personality they were like this

729
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:11,200
girl probably wouldn't have a boyfriend

730
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:13,360
like it just wouldn't like i'm a tough

731
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:16,799
girl you know like my persona is not

732
00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:18,240
one that they had originated the

733
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:19,840
character was supposed to be like beaten

734
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:21,840
up by her boyfriend and stuff and then

735
00:32:26,149 --> 00:32:23,760
kind of they gave me like this badass

736
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:26,159
vibe where i was kind of like i remember

737
00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:27,360
seeing some of the pictures where you

738
00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:29,120
were like supposed to be a badass and i

739
00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:31,360
thought that that fits her pretty well

740
00:32:37,269 --> 00:32:34,399
right yeah and then you have we do have

741
00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:37,279
men here offering to be your boyfriend

742
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:39,120
but i just want to clarify because all

743
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:41,039
every guy that watches the show is going

744
00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:43,440
to be asking me later like you're

745
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:45,760
engaged now right

746
00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:48,480
or weren't you no i'm not engaged no i'm

747
00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:50,399
single but um well i thought that you

748
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:52,320
did get engaged am i wrong maybe no i

749
00:32:56,870 --> 00:32:54,000
get engaged like once a year just keep

750
00:32:58,710 --> 00:32:56,880
things fresh you know and then you boot

751
00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:58,720
them to the curb and get a new one

752
00:33:02,149 --> 00:33:00,080
that's good

753
00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:02,159
yeah i know it's like the kiss of death

754
00:33:06,710 --> 00:33:04,559
when somebody asked me that i'm like um

755
00:33:08,149 --> 00:33:06,720
okay you know i just you know like you

756
00:33:09,509 --> 00:33:08,159
know how i am about my personal space

757
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:09,519
i'm gonna live on a school bus for the

758
00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:12,080
rest of my life so

759
00:33:15,669 --> 00:33:13,760
i want to live in a cabin so there

760
00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:15,679
there's that i understand yeah i know

761
00:33:20,389 --> 00:33:18,480
it's perfect it's great just this

762
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:20,399
this feeling of like let's just go

763
00:33:24,310 --> 00:33:23,120
escape right yeah yeah that's my

764
00:33:26,389 --> 00:33:24,320
favorite like if you don't like your

765
00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:26,399
neighbors you can just leave

766
00:33:31,029 --> 00:33:28,559
yeah i like the mobile thing because you

767
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:31,039
know where i'm at i can't just

768
00:33:35,190 --> 00:33:34,000
drive my cabin you know someplace else

769
00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:35,200
right

770
00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:39,039
you have a definite technology

771
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:41,039
yeah definitely i i love it i was

772
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:42,640
actually um thinking about getting a

773
00:33:47,350 --> 00:33:44,720
double decker like they have in

774
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:47,360
that would be my plan if i ever do a bus

775
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:49,279
i want a double decker so it really is

776
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:51,360
plenty of living space because i've seen

777
00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:52,799
there's some on youtube that guys have

778
00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:55,679
done that and it's amazing oh yeah they

779
00:34:00,549 --> 00:33:57,840
they cut the roof down yeah they cut the

780
00:34:02,470 --> 00:34:00,559
roof down to um i think there's a

781
00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:02,480
standard uh there's a standard bridge

782
00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:04,720
size that you don't wanna yeah

783
00:34:07,990 --> 00:34:06,240
you gotta be careful going under bridges

784
00:34:10,069 --> 00:34:08,000
once you have a double decker for sure

785
00:34:11,349 --> 00:34:10,079
yeah in america our bridges are a lot

786
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:11,359
lower so

787
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:13,679
you have to be really careful but um but

788
00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:15,760
i've seen people mod their buses and and

789
00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:17,599
and mob them i'm really looking forward

790
00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:20,000
to um getting my hands dirty doing that

791
00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:21,679
over the spring and i was thinking about

792
00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:24,480
filming it since last time i got so much

793
00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:25,520
interest

794
00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:26,639
yeah

795
00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:29,280
cabin and i keep saying i'm going to

796
00:34:32,310 --> 00:34:30,720
start filming

797
00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:32,320
projects but it's just so hard because

798
00:34:36,869 --> 00:34:34,879
i'm there by myself to build something

799
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:36,879
and worry about cameras then i have to

800
00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:39,520
edit it or yeah so i just i take a lot

801
00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:41,839
of pictures and i share that way because

802
00:34:45,430 --> 00:34:43,599
you know there's a huge interest in this

803
00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:45,440
sort of thing because everybody is sick

804
00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:48,000
of this place and all want to escape

805
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:50,480
yeah i started my bus account out like

806
00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:53,040
with the like like a name without a face

807
00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:55,040
really like it was more just like all

808
00:34:58,950 --> 00:34:57,200
the bus and i didn't let anybody know it

809
00:35:01,190 --> 00:34:58,960
was me doing the bus i was just kind of

810
00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:01,200
like hey this is like the boss the bus

811
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:02,560
account you know

812
00:35:07,030 --> 00:35:04,320
and then eventually um people got

813
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:07,040
interested in the um

814
00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:09,760
in this spiritual like you know wanderer

815
00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:11,760
aspect of things and some people wanted

816
00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:13,280
to know more about what i was doing with

817
00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:14,880
the gypsy bus and

818
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:16,720
um so i started kind of letting

819
00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:18,960
everybody know it was me in there

820
00:35:23,589 --> 00:35:21,760
and i got a couple offers to have people

821
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:23,599
film me while i was doing the bus but

822
00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:27,680
i'm like i was so gross like i was like

823
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:33,270
yeah i know something about that too i

824
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:34,800
always feel like i look like a homeless

825
00:35:38,950 --> 00:35:36,800
person when i'm at the cabin i have my

826
00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:38,960
dirt clothes you know like my

827
00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:41,359
my cemented up jeans with paint and

828
00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:44,800
stain all over them

829
00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:46,880
i'm working on the cabin i am in total

830
00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:48,800
slob mode and i don't really want to be

831
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:50,880
filmed you know yeah i'm like i'm not

832
00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:52,960
walking around in my bikini like you

833
00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:54,800
know like i'm not my hair's not done

834
00:35:58,870 --> 00:35:56,640
i'll probably get better ratings if you

835
00:36:01,510 --> 00:35:58,880
did it that way though right oh yeah you

836
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:01,520
know there actually is there actually is

837
00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:04,240
in the off grid you you know like

838
00:36:09,829 --> 00:36:06,960
youtube world there's a big backlash now

839
00:36:11,510 --> 00:36:09,839
because a lot of off-grid channels

840
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:11,520
guys are doing things like every

841
00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:13,440
thumbnail is a picture of his wife's

842
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:15,119
butt or bust

843
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:17,760
and then the real off-grid channels are

844
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:19,280
so pissed at those people because

845
00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:21,200
they're getting huge views

846
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:24,320
yeah these things sell that that's it's

847
00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:26,480
clickbait right i'll just wear safety

848
00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:29,040
goggles like and nothing else like

849
00:36:32,069 --> 00:36:29,920
yeah

850
00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:32,079
goggles in a bikini i'm sanding the bus

851
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:32,960
today

852
00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:34,880
i'm just using a grinder you know just

853
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:38,000
the eye safety is all that matters here

854
00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:39,760
that'll be awful this is the kind of

855
00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:41,520
youtube channel that i would do if i was

856
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:44,720
a woman i'm sure of it uh well i did um

857
00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:47,200
i did i did some um

858
00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:49,920
during the storm last year on my on my

859
00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:51,839
schooly foley account there's a picture

860
00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:53,280
of me in the

861
00:36:57,270 --> 00:36:56,000
in the snow storm in a bikini i remember

862
00:36:58,630 --> 00:36:57,280
that one yeah

863
00:37:00,790 --> 00:36:58,640
i was trying to be fun i was trying to

864
00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:00,800
be funny it was funny like actually as

865
00:37:04,470 --> 00:37:02,160
long as you keep your feet warm and i'm

866
00:37:05,589 --> 00:37:04,480
my bus stays so warm because it's so

867
00:37:08,550 --> 00:37:05,599
cozy you know what i mean it's such a

868
00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:08,560
small thing yeah and it was it was just

869
00:37:12,550 --> 00:37:10,640
like blazing hot in there but if you

870
00:37:14,790 --> 00:37:12,560
wear moon boots and a bikini and you

871
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:14,800
just go in and out for a few minutes and

872
00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:17,040
make some pictures for people sure yeah

873
00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:19,040
that's right

874
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:20,640
because there's snow everywhere and

875
00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:22,960
you're standing there in the bikini like

876
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:25,359
yeah it's hard to believe

877
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:28,160
yeah and success design is is uh sharing

878
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:30,880
the imdb page for you

879
00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:33,520
thank you featuring rachel hoffman yeah

880
00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:35,200
proud of you i'm glad that you know i

881
00:37:38,950 --> 00:37:36,880
remember when we talked before you said

882
00:37:41,109 --> 00:37:38,960
like i'm going to give this thing a real

883
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:41,119
serious try and i've been watching and

884
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:42,800
going like she's

885
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:44,880
she keeps on swinging i'll give her that

886
00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:46,800
like you keep on going and trying to get

887
00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:48,960
into more projects and stuff like that

888
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:49,760
right

889
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:51,440
yeah thank you i'm trying to put on the

890
00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:53,920
director hat now and take over with the

891
00:37:56,950 --> 00:37:55,280
filming um

892
00:37:58,870 --> 00:37:56,960
and i have a little crew that's gonna be

893
00:38:00,790 --> 00:37:58,880
with me and instead like i said i'm

894
00:38:03,349 --> 00:38:00,800
gonna do i'm gonna take the

895
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:03,359
the trip to people so that i can do

896
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:06,560
these um little series filming

897
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:08,720
it keeps it more personal for people too

898
00:38:13,030 --> 00:38:11,040
and then like they have no excuse not to

899
00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:13,040
show up i'm like i'm here in your

900
00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:14,720
neighborhood

901
00:38:16,870 --> 00:38:15,680
yeah

902
00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:16,880
it's perfect i have a lot of

903
00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:18,960
enthusiastic actors

904
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:21,520
that are very excited and

905
00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:25,119
we have 38 episodes that we're going to

906
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:27,520
be filming so lots of behind the scenes

907
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:28,880
stuff and then

908
00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:31,440
we are right now kind of

909
00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:34,000
figuring out who wants to purchase it

910
00:38:39,349 --> 00:38:36,400
because you know i have my affiliates in

911
00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:39,359
television and so people are looking at

912
00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:40,480
it and

913
00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:42,079
like making their little offers and

914
00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:44,079
stuff but there's quite a few episodes

915
00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:46,160
that i plan on filming before i delve

916
00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:48,400
into that but that'll be exciting to see

917
00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:51,040
it on tv

918
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:51,839
what

919
00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:56,000
you're going to do that many episodes

920
00:39:00,310 --> 00:38:58,160
yeah it's going to be on a weekly basis

921
00:39:02,790 --> 00:39:00,320
basically and it's going to be the

922
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:02,800
victims get their turn to come back and

923
00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:05,359
drag their assailants to hell

924
00:39:08,950 --> 00:39:07,119
oh like sort of like the crow i like

925
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:08,960
that idea yeah it's like a little

926
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:11,040
spin-off so it'd be like if lisa levy

927
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:12,960
could come back and and drag ted bundy

928
00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:15,280
to hell that's very interesting and

929
00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:16,800
people are asking more about your

930
00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:18,960
hunting ghosts so maybe we can get more

931
00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:20,880
into that i know that you've been busy

932
00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:22,160
with the movies

933
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:24,079
but are you you still have an intense

934
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:26,880
interest in ghosts and ghost hunting and

935
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:29,520
paranormal investigation side of things

936
00:39:34,950 --> 00:39:31,920
have you been doing very much with that

937
00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:34,960
yes so in between this i'm filming a

938
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:38,400
true crime series um and what i'm doing

939
00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:41,040
is i have gotten together with marlin

940
00:39:47,190 --> 00:39:44,800
ooh from boston and he's also all over

941
00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:47,200
the map with paranormal and we are going

942
00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:48,800
to be doing a show called the paranormal

943
00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:50,320
ride

944
00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:53,200
and it's going to be kind of

945
00:39:56,710 --> 00:39:55,119
yeah it's a lot of fun like i am so

946
00:39:58,870 --> 00:39:56,720
excited about traveling and going to see

947
00:40:00,310 --> 00:39:58,880
the different ghosts in everybody's town

948
00:40:01,270 --> 00:40:00,320
first thing i asked i'm like what's

949
00:40:02,950 --> 00:40:01,280
haunted

950
00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:02,960
what's up

951
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:05,440
yeah where's the whole house around here

952
00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:07,200
exactly

953
00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:10,400
so i'm excited i know that america has

954
00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:11,920
so many

955
00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:15,200
different um treasure troves and so

956
00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:18,400
whilst going from filming to filming um

957
00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:20,640
behind the scenes you'll be seeing you

958
00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:23,359
know me with my fluffy hair and pjs on

959
00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:25,119
and then going out ghost hunting and

960
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:26,720
everything so i'm gonna be pretty raw

961
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:27,680
with it

962
00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:30,480
so that people can see what it's like um

963
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:32,319
you know sometimes we spend like 14

964
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:35,200
hours out there and get like one evp

965
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:37,440
you know so it's a slow process it's

966
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:39,440
definitely a slow process we did we

967
00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:41,520
started doing evps and

968
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:44,240
i got so bored of listening for hours

969
00:40:48,390 --> 00:40:46,000
and hours to hear

970
00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:48,400
did we get anything you know it's very

971
00:40:53,829 --> 00:40:51,119
tedious to me you know what i do i do i

972
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:53,839
do burst sessions so only five minutes

973
00:40:57,910 --> 00:40:55,920
at a time

974
00:41:00,309 --> 00:40:57,920
like i'll switch

975
00:41:02,309 --> 00:41:00,319
yeah it works because if you're running

976
00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:02,319
cameras you're basically you're gonna

977
00:41:05,349 --> 00:41:04,240
catch some audio no matter what you do

978
00:41:08,309 --> 00:41:05,359
actually i've caught some really great

979
00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:08,319
audio class a evps and things on

980
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:11,359
um on video that it's just like you know

981
00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:13,200
you're like watching you're watching the

982
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:14,400
audio and all of a sudden there's this

983
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:16,560
like roller coaster ride on the audio

984
00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:18,720
but you don't you don't hear it you see

985
00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:19,440
it

986
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:27,680
and a lot of the stuff that i did at the

987
00:41:31,589 --> 00:41:29,520
middleborough town hall

988
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:31,599
were these clips of

989
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:35,200
voices and they all came from my camera

990
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:37,200
wow and and

991
00:41:40,470 --> 00:41:39,119
do you do you think though

992
00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:40,480
i always wanted to ask somebody that was

993
00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:42,000
more on the go side of things because we

994
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:44,400
cover ufos mostly here

995
00:41:49,109 --> 00:41:47,040
and and but a lot of people seem to

996
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:49,119
think that there is a connection that

997
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:50,480
it's all

998
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:53,280
one phenomenon really bigfoot ghosts

999
00:41:57,910 --> 00:41:55,440
demons ufos

1000
00:41:59,829 --> 00:41:57,920
cryptic creatures that people are seeing

1001
00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:59,839
shadow people

1002
00:42:02,790 --> 00:42:01,200
and things like that do you think it's

1003
00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:02,800
all related

1004
00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:04,640
yeah i'm a big believer in quantum

1005
00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:07,200
entanglement and so oh there you go

1006
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:09,359
that'll explain a lot of things right

1007
00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:11,280
yeah it's like it's basically like that

1008
00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:14,560
spider web and it leaks in from string

1009
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:17,280
to string and it all it's bigger than us

1010
00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:19,200
you know it's so much bigger than us

1011
00:42:23,349 --> 00:42:20,720
that it's hard to wrap your head around

1012
00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:23,359
how a bigfoot creature could be a

1013
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:26,160
spiritual soulful creature

1014
00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:28,640
and how it could be related in any way

1015
00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:32,240
to that paranormal phenomenon but i

1016
00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:34,160
notice a lot of places that have this

1017
00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:36,400
phenomenon don't just have one like for

1018
00:42:39,870 --> 00:42:38,480
instance the bridgewater triangle

1019
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:39,880
it's a

1020
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:43,599
240 mile perimeter of the most haunted

1021
00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:46,240
happenings in and there's also bigfoot

1022
00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:48,560
sightings and there's also ufo sightings

1023
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:51,040
all in the same triangle of space which

1024
00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:53,520
is bizarre to me yeah

1025
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:55,119
and it's also i've been out there a

1026
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:56,800
multitude of times i spent a summer out

1027
00:43:00,790 --> 00:42:58,400
there

1028
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:00,800
oh wow really did you see anything

1029
00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:02,720
i saw everything

1030
00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:04,560
oh wow you gotta tell us about it we

1031
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:06,880
gotta break this down what did you say

1032
00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:09,839
so i went out there at first and i was

1033
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:11,680
really excited i started hearing things

1034
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:13,760
that people said were like bigfoot

1035
00:43:16,630 --> 00:43:15,119
noises

1036
00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:16,640
and i'm like okay so here's what i'm

1037
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:18,960
looking for because the cryptozoology

1038
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:20,480
aspect was something that was very new

1039
00:43:23,589 --> 00:43:22,240
to me at the time i was just beginning

1040
00:43:25,829 --> 00:43:23,599
in the paranormal

1041
00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:25,839
and i have my own personal experiences

1042
00:43:29,030 --> 00:43:28,079
with ghosts and aliens but this was a

1043
00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:29,040
different

1044
00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:30,720
species now

1045
00:43:35,109 --> 00:43:32,960
so and people like it's very kindred

1046
00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:35,119
it's very nice so i'm like okay well i'm

1047
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:36,880
not super worried about running into it

1048
00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:38,480
if it's gonna be like

1049
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:41,520
cool with me you know

1050
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:43,920
and so we went out into the um we went

1051
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:45,760
out into the bridgewater triangle area

1052
00:43:49,750 --> 00:43:47,920
and i started hearing these noises

1053
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:49,760
but then someone in the group was like

1054
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:52,079
aren't there black bears out here

1055
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:54,560
so we're like in black bear country

1056
00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:56,800
so to being able to tell

1057
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:00,400
those signs from an animal was so i was

1058
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:02,720
freaked out by them by the idea of being

1059
00:44:06,790 --> 00:44:04,240
attacked by a bear

1060
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:06,800
so um i had a bear i had a bear come

1061
00:44:10,710 --> 00:44:09,359
very close to me at my cabin and it was

1062
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:10,720
terrifying

1063
00:44:14,470 --> 00:44:12,960
i got between i didn't realize it but i

1064
00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:14,480
got between a cub

1065
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:15,680
and the mom

1066
00:44:19,829 --> 00:44:17,680
and me like a dummy i'm taking pictures

1067
00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:19,839
and getting closer and closer

1068
00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:22,160
and then the cub came out of the woods

1069
00:44:25,670 --> 00:44:24,079
like out of some brush i didn't see

1070
00:44:27,910 --> 00:44:25,680
right in front of me like two feet in

1071
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:27,920
front of me and the mom was 10 or 15

1072
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:30,640
feet from me and the cub she

1073
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:32,240
went up on her hind legs and started

1074
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:33,920
running at me

1075
00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:35,760
but luckily she stopped as soon as she

1076
00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:37,839
got to the club and i ran

1077
00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:40,079
you know gave me a new it gave me a new

1078
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:41,920
respect we see bears all the time at my

1079
00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:44,160
cabin all the time we see them and but

1080
00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:45,440
generally

1081
00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:47,440
you know i have an air horn and a siren

1082
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:49,040
and when they hear that loud noise you

1083
00:44:52,470 --> 00:44:51,119
bang on some pots or make a lot of noise

1084
00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:52,480
that go away

1085
00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:54,079
i'd have anything i'd have any pots on

1086
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:56,160
me or nothing so i'm out of here i'm

1087
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:57,599
freaking out of here i lost like a

1088
00:45:01,910 --> 00:45:00,240
recorder and a flashlight i was i i just

1089
00:45:04,150 --> 00:45:01,920
went because i

1090
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:04,160
nature's not predictable

1091
00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:05,760
it's not like you're like okay well this

1092
00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:07,040
is what's going to happen if i go out

1093
00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:08,240
there like

1094
00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:11,200
so i wound up going out there safely

1095
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:13,040
um you know for the rest of the time and

1096
00:45:16,630 --> 00:45:14,720
i generally stayed in my car because

1097
00:45:19,030 --> 00:45:16,640
there's a there's a huge perimeter out

1098
00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:19,040
there that you can go you know do the

1099
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:20,160
ghost hunting and everything you don't

1100
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:22,240
have to be far from your vehicle now a

1101
00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:24,079
lot of that area i don't feel safe in a

1102
00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:26,000
tent when there's bear when there's

1103
00:45:30,470 --> 00:45:28,480
bears in the area i don't feel safe in

1104
00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:30,480
the tent no i'd rather be in the car at

1105
00:45:34,710 --> 00:45:32,079
least there's some something between you

1106
00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:34,720
and some coverage yeah so

1107
00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:36,960
and also a lot of those places in that

1108
00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:39,680
area in the new bedford area we were

1109
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:42,400
going there for like true crime

1110
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:44,640
so it's a crime high crime area like

1111
00:45:48,630 --> 00:45:46,560
these there's women's bodies are being

1112
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:48,640
dumped back there which is heavily the

1113
00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:50,480
interest of why we're there to talk to

1114
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:52,480
the and communicate with the females

1115
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:54,720
that had lost their lives back there

1116
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:56,319
and so we're back there we're talking to

1117
00:46:00,950 --> 00:45:59,440
these women and you know people are like

1118
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:00,960
creepy and they're walking by and

1119
00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:02,640
they're coming by like there's a lot to

1120
00:46:08,309 --> 00:46:04,800
be fearful of in the

1121
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:08,319
in our realm of reality like really it's

1122
00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:10,480
a scary world out there

1123
00:46:13,829 --> 00:46:12,560
yeah very brave to be in those areas

1124
00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:13,839
because for all you know the killer is

1125
00:46:20,309 --> 00:46:18,630
you never know like these are unsolved

1126
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:20,319
murders these are you know things that

1127
00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:22,480
haven't been solved generally what i

1128
00:46:27,910 --> 00:46:25,200
noticed was their um

1129
00:46:29,829 --> 00:46:27,920
their lineup of women um in that area

1130
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:29,839
were prostitutes or people that were

1131
00:46:34,710 --> 00:46:32,480
easily accessible and you know people

1132
00:46:36,790 --> 00:46:34,720
make up excuses in their own brain to

1133
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:36,800
attack a woman and there were a few

1134
00:46:40,710 --> 00:46:38,880
people that were indicated that there

1135
00:46:42,309 --> 00:46:40,720
was not they weren't streetwalkers they

1136
00:46:43,109 --> 00:46:42,319
weren't doing you know they weren't out

1137
00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:43,119
there

1138
00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:44,960
like doing risky behaviors and things

1139
00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:46,560
like that and i'm not saying anybody is

1140
00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:48,720
deserving of any type of behavior like

1141
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:50,400
that but when you're out there you're

1142
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:52,400
more likely to run into

1143
00:46:56,950 --> 00:46:54,800
somebody that's a little creepy you know

1144
00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:56,960
i could imagine yeah and a lot of a lot

1145
00:47:01,990 --> 00:46:59,359
of serial killers have targeted these

1146
00:47:03,430 --> 00:47:02,000
marginalized women like prostitutes or

1147
00:47:06,230 --> 00:47:03,440
drug addicts

1148
00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:06,240
you know because they're easier prey and

1149
00:47:10,309 --> 00:47:08,000
right it gives them an in like a

1150
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:10,319
prostitute will get in your car and you

1151
00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:12,880
can drive away with her a regular woman

1152
00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:14,480
if you try to get her in your car

1153
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:16,400
probably wouldn't if she didn't know you

1154
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:18,000
get in your car for

1155
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:20,800
most you know so yeah these serial

1156
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:22,960
killers tend to target i i watch a lot

1157
00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:25,920
of true crime they really do target

1158
00:47:29,589 --> 00:47:27,680
those kind of women

1159
00:47:31,349 --> 00:47:29,599
and it's a shame but a lot of times

1160
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:31,359
these kind of women

1161
00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:33,520
there's just not the same importance you

1162
00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:34,880
know i mean like look at this gabby

1163
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:37,359
potito if she had been just some random

1164
00:47:40,150 --> 00:47:38,400
prostitute

1165
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:40,160
there's no way that that murder would

1166
00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:41,920
have gotten the national coverage that

1167
00:47:44,950 --> 00:47:43,200
it did

1168
00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:44,960
right and i've seen it myself and it's

1169
00:47:48,950 --> 00:47:46,880
unfortunate and there have been i mean

1170
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:48,960
these women are so deserving and part of

1171
00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:51,200
my true crime flight in the future is

1172
00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:53,440
kind of letting people know who the

1173
00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:56,000
victims are and talking about

1174
00:47:59,829 --> 00:47:57,520
you know um

1175
00:48:03,190 --> 00:47:59,839
the the the prolific cases that we see

1176
00:48:05,829 --> 00:48:03,200
before us like albert fish ted bundy um

1177
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:05,839
and gacy and things like that we know

1178
00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:07,040
these men

1179
00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:08,960
but we don't know

1180
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:11,359
their victims we really don't we need to

1181
00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:13,680
start picking that apart really and and

1182
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:15,440
hearing more about what they were about

1183
00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:17,440
what their favorite cereal was

1184
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:19,440
what they wanted to be when they grew up

1185
00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:21,520
like basically just becomes a body count

1186
00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:23,040
right it just becomes a body yeah like

1187
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:25,440
oh this is one of ted bundy's 27 victims

1188
00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:27,359
or whatever the case may be

1189
00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:29,599
right and you spend one day one day

1190
00:48:33,589 --> 00:48:31,520
dying like one day of your life you

1191
00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:33,599
spend being killed by someone so the

1192
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:36,319
rest of your life has been tossed to the

1193
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:38,960
wind you know so you're you're out there

1194
00:48:42,309 --> 00:48:40,880
where the where the dump sites were for

1195
00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:42,319
some of these women and what are you

1196
00:48:44,549 --> 00:48:43,119
trying to do you're trying to

1197
00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:44,559
communicate with the ghosts and see if

1198
00:48:48,150 --> 00:48:45,920
you can get some details about the

1199
00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:48,160
killer to help maybe help the police or

1200
00:48:50,549 --> 00:48:48,960
help

1201
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:50,559
bring in some kind of justice because

1202
00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:56,230
i worked with the police on the new

1203
00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:59,200
bedford highway murders um after they

1204
00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:01,440
had uh like a while after they had

1205
00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:03,760
expired from the news

1206
00:49:08,470 --> 00:49:06,480
and um the one of the girls identified

1207
00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:08,480
her killer a year before her body was

1208
00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:11,520
exhumed and she identified him like by

1209
00:49:15,670 --> 00:49:12,960
his street name

1210
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:15,680
and i actually won a chicago paranormal

1211
00:49:19,990 --> 00:49:17,280
film festival award

1212
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:20,000
um because of that like because she was

1213
00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:21,920
screaming to me from beyond the grave

1214
00:49:25,589 --> 00:49:22,960
like

1215
00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:25,599
and uh she told me who killed her

1216
00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:27,839
amazing interesting yeah

1217
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:31,200
this is a famous case march 1988 and

1218
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:32,960
april 1999

1219
00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:36,400
expec the killer was also

1220
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:38,400
women you know they often don't start

1221
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:40,160
with murder they often start with rape

1222
00:49:44,069 --> 00:49:42,000
or sexual some form of sexual assault

1223
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:44,079
but then they grab they graduate to the

1224
00:49:46,950 --> 00:49:45,280
murder

1225
00:49:48,549 --> 00:49:46,960
oftentimes after they've already gotten

1226
00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:48,559
a conviction for some form of sexual

1227
00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:50,000
assault because then they do a sexual

1228
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:52,079
assault and don't want to be caught

1229
00:49:56,069 --> 00:49:53,599
you know

1230
00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:56,079
yeah and i think this i think that this

1231
00:50:01,349 --> 00:49:58,480
guy had access to all these women

1232
00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:01,359
um that area out there is like cape cod

1233
00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:02,720
rhode island

1234
00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:05,440
boston area it's very easy to access all

1235
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:07,119
of them and they're there they are and

1236
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:09,280
they were calling like if you look them

1237
00:50:14,069 --> 00:50:10,880
up online

1238
00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:14,079
i have um blood sweat and fear

1239
00:50:18,549 --> 00:50:16,640
um from paranormal expeditions and you

1240
00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:18,559
can see these women

1241
00:50:26,309 --> 00:50:20,400
calling their own name from beyond the

1242
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:28,390
that's pretty interesting and so were

1243
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:30,480
you able to provide the police with some

1244
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:33,040
insight that maybe they

1245
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:35,200
they wouldn't have gotten otherwise

1246
00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:36,960
it wasn't really it wasn't really

1247
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:39,359
anything that i did but i did inform

1248
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:42,000
them that this had happened um i had

1249
00:50:46,870 --> 00:50:44,480
worked with the police because i wanted

1250
00:50:49,109 --> 00:50:46,880
to know more about the women personally

1251
00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:49,119
like they had seen them before they had

1252
00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:50,640
just passed away like one of the

1253
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:52,960
officers that i had worked with um was

1254
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:54,480
there when each one of these women were

1255
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:56,480
discovered

1256
00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:58,720
but also he was there while they were

1257
00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:00,559
being arrested for prostitution while

1258
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:02,960
they were you know like in dare programs

1259
00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:04,720
he grew up they grew up around the local

1260
00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:07,200
area so he was affiliated with them

1261
00:51:11,589 --> 00:51:09,200
you know as human beings you know what i

1262
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:11,599
mean like not just they weren't just a

1263
00:51:15,910 --> 00:51:13,200
name in the paper

1264
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:15,920
um so he was working side by side with

1265
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:16,720
me

1266
00:51:22,790 --> 00:51:21,119
communicate with them because i knew

1267
00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:22,800
things that would

1268
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:24,880
you know that would entice them to speak

1269
00:51:34,069 --> 00:51:31,750
sorry this is your page here for

1270
00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:34,079
paranormal expeditions which i follow

1271
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:36,880
and i encourage everybody else to i'm a

1272
00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:38,480
terrible show host and forgot to put it

1273
00:51:44,069 --> 00:51:40,720
in there but i will be putting this in

1274
00:51:45,990 --> 00:51:44,079
the way that looks like a haunted house

1275
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:46,000
that looks like a haunted abandoned

1276
00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:47,440
house can you tell us a little bit about

1277
00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:49,599
this location that you checked out

1278
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:52,319
yeah we went across uh different areas

1279
00:51:58,870 --> 00:51:55,440
and we went to the sites for abandoned

1280
00:52:01,829 --> 00:51:58,880
georgia and we went through and uh made

1281
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:01,839
sure we were good to good to go uh as

1282
00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:03,440
long as it's not private property around

1283
00:52:06,710 --> 00:52:05,040
that area they allow you to go into the

1284
00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:06,720
buildings that are

1285
00:52:10,150 --> 00:52:08,319
you know abandoned

1286
00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:10,160
so we found a few

1287
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:12,319
on the outskirts of georgia

1288
00:52:16,549 --> 00:52:14,640
and i spent like two or three weeks

1289
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:16,559
scouting and it was really fun and

1290
00:52:22,309 --> 00:52:18,480
really interesting and again those

1291
00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:22,319
buildings hold so much energy you know

1292
00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:24,319
so it was a long time i was there for

1293
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:25,030
six weeks

1294
00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:26,559
[Music]

1295
00:52:30,390 --> 00:52:28,160
yeah and here we see the some of the

1296
00:52:31,270 --> 00:52:30,400
promo for the go straight to hell

1297
00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:31,280
film

1298
00:52:34,309 --> 00:52:33,040
which hopefully will still be coming

1299
00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:34,319
right

1300
00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:36,960
yes yeah definitely i'm just talking to

1301
00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:38,880
um the people about cleaning up the last

1302
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:41,520
three days and getting it out there and

1303
00:52:44,069 --> 00:52:43,359
getting it promoted and in the meantime

1304
00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:44,079
to

1305
00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:46,240
quench people's thirst i'll be hitting

1306
00:52:50,790 --> 00:52:48,720
up the series and um getting it out on a

1307
00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:50,800
weekly basis i just haven't decided what

1308
00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:53,119
platform to use yet

1309
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:54,880
well that's interesting yeah because now

1310
00:52:59,750 --> 00:52:57,119
there's an awful lot more uh an awful

1311
00:53:01,510 --> 00:52:59,760
lot more choices than there used to be

1312
00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:01,520
yeah and i need to make sure it's

1313
00:53:07,030 --> 00:53:03,359
liberal and it maintains the freedom

1314
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:07,040
because we have nudity and swearing and

1315
00:53:09,910 --> 00:53:08,640
you know all the fun stuff that makes

1316
00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:09,920
horror like

1317
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:12,000
the gritty grimy stuff that we really

1318
00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:14,800
enjoy from from b movies

1319
00:53:19,510 --> 00:53:17,280
so we don't have to worry as much about

1320
00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:19,520
um these things are going to go hand in

1321
00:53:23,589 --> 00:53:21,680
hand like i said i called you a scream

1322
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:23,599
queen and there have been

1323
00:53:27,190 --> 00:53:26,160
just so many women that have been like

1324
00:53:29,270 --> 00:53:27,200
you know

1325
00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:29,280
very attractive women in horror movies

1326
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:31,760
these two things go together right

1327
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:32,880
mm-hmm

1328
00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:34,240
i think they do

1329
00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:37,359
i think so too i mean i know even as a

1330
00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:39,280
as a younger girl i started watching

1331
00:53:44,150 --> 00:53:43,119
here's you in a bathtub full of blood

1332
00:53:47,670 --> 00:53:44,160
look at that

1333
00:53:49,349 --> 00:53:47,680
see now you guys know why i follow this

1334
00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:49,359
is crazy you never know what she's gonna

1335
00:53:53,589 --> 00:53:50,400
post

1336
00:53:55,510 --> 00:53:53,599
a hacks

1337
00:53:58,549 --> 00:53:55,520
all bloody the next day it's like heard

1338
00:54:00,710 --> 00:53:58,559
a bathtub full of blood

1339
00:54:02,390 --> 00:54:00,720
look this is the the isolation chamber

1340
00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:02,400
in eastern state notice our friend

1341
00:54:06,309 --> 00:54:04,559
there's a crawl space was

1342
00:54:07,750 --> 00:54:06,319
i was crouching the same way as him

1343
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:07,760
through the doors there are rumors the

1344
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:09,280
prisoners were kept here for too long

1345
00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:12,240
and have never left this is some

1346
00:54:16,309 --> 00:54:14,559
isolation room from a prison

1347
00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:16,319
yeah it's the um

1348
00:54:21,670 --> 00:54:18,000
it's the isolation chamber at eastern

1349
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:21,680
state pen where um al capone

1350
00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:22,960
yeah

1351
00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:25,200
that's very very interesting

1352
00:54:29,589 --> 00:54:26,640
i was one of the last people that took a

1353
00:54:32,069 --> 00:54:29,599
picture of him of his um room fully

1354
00:54:34,390 --> 00:54:32,079
functional they've since torn the um the

1355
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:34,400
room down i'm not sure what they did to

1356
00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:36,960
replace some of the items but i think

1357
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:40,000
that it switched uh hands so switched

1358
00:54:44,069 --> 00:54:42,240
owners as far as the um

1359
00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:44,079
the facility went but

1360
00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:46,000
they run a huge haunted house every year

1361
00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:47,440
there

1362
00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:49,200
oh yeah is that what they do

1363
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:52,000
yeah i think so let me listen i didn't

1364
00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:55,200
go i didn't go during the um during the

1365
00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:57,440
season i wound up going i think it was

1366
00:55:02,150 --> 00:55:00,240
like the summer time or this this is uh

1367
00:55:03,990 --> 00:55:02,160
the eastern state penitentiary is just a

1368
00:55:07,750 --> 00:55:04,000
few miles from where i grew up so i'm

1369
00:55:09,430 --> 00:55:07,760
very familiar with that i just i i had a

1370
00:55:10,789 --> 00:55:09,440
you know like a senior moment there for

1371
00:55:12,710 --> 00:55:10,799
a minute and went am i thinking of a

1372
00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:12,720
different place or is this a place near

1373
00:55:16,309 --> 00:55:14,559
my house and no this is definitely the

1374
00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:16,319
place where i grew up

1375
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:19,200
oh yeah interestingly i once tried to do

1376
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:20,400
a uh

1377
00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:21,839
a music video there and they wouldn't

1378
00:55:25,349 --> 00:55:23,359
let me

1379
00:55:27,430 --> 00:55:25,359
so after that i didn't like them anymore

1380
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:27,440
well insurance and this they wanted a

1381
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:29,920
lot of money for me to fill yeah for one

1382
00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:31,359
day

1383
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:33,440
yeah it's not worth it but it's an

1384
00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:35,920
interesting crazy place here here's a

1385
00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:38,160
picture of eastern state penitentiary

1386
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:40,240
former prison and it's the biggest

1387
00:55:44,309 --> 00:55:42,640
haunted house attraction in philadelphia

1388
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:44,319
at least it was every year for a while i

1389
00:55:48,950 --> 00:55:46,480
was um driving uber

1390
00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:48,960
and i hated the month of october because

1391
00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:50,559
all i did was ferry people back and

1392
00:55:55,270 --> 00:55:53,359
forth from jersey to eastern state and

1393
00:55:57,030 --> 00:55:55,280
back and things like that

1394
00:55:58,470 --> 00:55:57,040
but i guess should be thankful for that

1395
00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:58,480
but it's interesting

1396
00:56:02,789 --> 00:56:00,720
and has an amazing history and they do

1397
00:56:05,589 --> 00:56:02,799
tours and they do these haunted house

1398
00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:05,599
thing every year and you can really and

1399
00:56:09,990 --> 00:56:07,359
they let us just walk around when we

1400
00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:10,000
went there and then i think that we did

1401
00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:12,319
like some donation or something

1402
00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:14,240
you know to keep the doors open they

1403
00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:16,640
have to maintain the facility

1404
00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:18,559
and so i think that they just ask their

1405
00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:20,319
guests to give a donation i don't even

1406
00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:22,000
think that they set a price which is

1407
00:56:26,309 --> 00:56:24,160
really great so if you're down there

1408
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:26,319
yeah there's a lot to do the owners have

1409
00:56:29,589 --> 00:56:28,240
changed hands a few times so back when i

1410
00:56:30,870 --> 00:56:29,599
was trying to make a music video it

1411
00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:30,880
might have been a different owner that

1412
00:56:35,589 --> 00:56:33,520
wasn't so kind to visitors and

1413
00:56:36,789 --> 00:56:35,599
interested you know ghost hunters and

1414
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:36,799
things like that

1415
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:39,040
but yeah it's just an amazing building

1416
00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:40,720
that looks like a castle i remember

1417
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:42,640
being a kid and we were riding our bikes

1418
00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:45,200
around there and it just it does it does

1419
00:56:48,630 --> 00:56:46,720
it looks like it was a classic yeah it

1420
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:48,640
was a castle look at that that's okay it

1421
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:51,520
does it's beautiful and it's haunting

1422
00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:54,720
and i went down to death row and i was

1423
00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:57,520
filming down there i got some evps down

1424
00:57:01,990 --> 00:57:00,000
um in that arena have you been down in

1425
00:57:04,309 --> 00:57:02,000
that little area i've been i've been all

1426
00:57:06,870 --> 00:57:04,319
over this building inside well usually

1427
00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:06,880
when they had the ghost tours

1428
00:57:11,430 --> 00:57:08,799
we would go and you see most of the

1429
00:57:13,270 --> 00:57:11,440
facility but some of it is like

1430
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:13,280
sectioned off so i may not have seen all

1431
00:57:17,030 --> 00:57:14,720
that you saw

1432
00:57:19,829 --> 00:57:17,040
so i'm jealous

1433
00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:19,839
i took a lot of pictures and i started

1434
00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:22,160
taking pictures of the art that was in

1435
00:57:28,470 --> 00:57:26,630
the art that was made by the people that

1436
00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:28,480
were on death row

1437
00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:30,640
look at this barber's chair there's just

1438
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:32,240
a barber chair in the middle of this

1439
00:57:34,710 --> 00:57:33,839
crumbling mess

1440
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:34,720
right

1441
00:57:39,349 --> 00:57:36,400
did you see the debris that was in the

1442
00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:39,359
wall they had like a cat the mummified

1443
00:57:43,829 --> 00:57:41,680
cats yeah there's all kinds of weird

1444
00:57:46,549 --> 00:57:43,839
stuff and weird stories with this with

1445
00:57:49,270 --> 00:57:46,559
this facility too there's legends

1446
00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:49,280
from the local neighborhood of it being

1447
00:57:55,109 --> 00:57:52,240
haunted and things like that

1448
00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:55,119
i think they found like uh like a bunch

1449
00:57:59,349 --> 00:57:57,520
of species of like bugs and different

1450
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:59,359
things like that

1451
00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:00,960
it sure looks hard yeah look at this

1452
00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:03,520
that that's a castle

1453
00:58:09,510 --> 00:58:06,720
it really hurt castle yeah

1454
00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:09,520
unfortunately the outside is much nicer

1455
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:11,200
looking than the inside the inside is

1456
00:58:15,430 --> 00:58:13,520
basically crumbling but maybe they're

1457
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:15,440
letting it crumble a little bit because

1458
00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:17,520
it adds to the character of the of the

1459
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:19,200
whole legend of the place being so

1460
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:22,000
haunted but i do know that so in some of

1461
00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:23,200
the history

1462
00:58:28,150 --> 00:58:26,160
you know there was a lot of claims of of

1463
00:58:30,150 --> 00:58:28,160
people being tortured in there the

1464
00:58:33,109 --> 00:58:30,160
prisoners being tortured or mistreated

1465
00:58:35,109 --> 00:58:33,119
and dying in the in the holding cells

1466
00:58:37,109 --> 00:58:35,119
and things like that

1467
00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:37,119
there's al capone's room there's al

1468
00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:39,200
capone al capone spent some time there

1469
00:58:42,789 --> 00:58:41,119
and there is his famous room in eastern

1470
00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:42,799
state penitentiary

1471
00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:44,559
very very interesting

1472
00:58:48,710 --> 00:58:46,319
and yeah we see this

1473
00:58:50,870 --> 00:58:48,720
this is what stands out in my memory

1474
00:58:53,109 --> 00:58:50,880
most about being inside this this sort

1475
00:58:56,069 --> 00:58:53,119
of hallway because there's a bunch of

1476
00:58:58,390 --> 00:58:56,079
them it goes in a square almost as i

1477
00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:58,400
recall and there's all these different

1478
00:59:02,390 --> 00:59:00,720
cells and you know

1479
00:59:04,950 --> 00:59:02,400
the uh

1480
00:59:07,109 --> 00:59:04,960
largely all of the you know like the

1481
00:59:08,710 --> 00:59:07,119
bars and the prison the former prison

1482
00:59:10,950 --> 00:59:08,720
stuff is still there but there's just

1483
00:59:13,270 --> 00:59:10,960
empty cells everywhere and it's kind of

1484
00:59:14,549 --> 00:59:13,280
like the walls are crumbling in on you

1485
00:59:16,950 --> 00:59:14,559
it did

1486
00:59:19,190 --> 00:59:16,960
to my recollection it had a very

1487
00:59:21,750 --> 00:59:19,200
i don't want to say like uh you know i'm

1488
00:59:24,069 --> 00:59:21,760
no psychic but it felt very ominous in

1489
00:59:25,829 --> 00:59:24,079
there it just felt very ominous like i

1490
00:59:29,990 --> 00:59:25,839
was someplace i wasn't supposed to be

1491
00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:31,510
so did you pick up a lot of ghost

1492
00:59:34,309 --> 00:59:33,040
activity there and do you feel that this

1493
00:59:36,549 --> 00:59:34,319
place is haunted

1494
00:59:39,589 --> 00:59:36,559
yeah oh my gosh yeah i felt it through

1495
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:39,599
the hallways i mean it was there was uh

1496
00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:42,240
the surgical rooms that we were

1497
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:44,160
like some of the tour was given to us or

1498
00:59:48,789 --> 00:59:46,400
we would have never like i never would

1499
00:59:50,309 --> 00:59:48,799
have even known like what half the stuff

1500
00:59:52,789 --> 00:59:50,319
was but

1501
00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:52,799
there's um surgical rooms and like you

1502
00:59:58,390 --> 00:59:55,760
said the dental office area

1503
01:00:00,549 --> 00:59:58,400
there's another medical area and

1504
01:00:01,430 --> 01:00:00,559
then the areas where the holding cells

1505
01:00:03,910 --> 01:00:01,440
were

1506
01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:03,920
um for death row or

1507
01:00:08,309 --> 01:00:05,760
oh god like

1508
01:00:10,630 --> 01:00:08,319
it was basically like you've crossed the

1509
01:00:13,190 --> 01:00:10,640
line and there's no going back like

1510
01:00:15,349 --> 01:00:13,200
you're never going back like and it was

1511
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:15,359
just it was really difficult and

1512
01:00:19,750 --> 01:00:18,000
especially as we know now

1513
01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:19,760
there are some people that were on death

1514
01:00:24,309 --> 01:00:21,760
row that weren't deserving of being on

1515
01:00:27,430 --> 01:00:24,319
death row and we just really didn't have

1516
01:00:29,589 --> 01:00:27,440
the power to change that like it's a

1517
01:00:30,470 --> 01:00:29,599
very strange system

1518
01:00:32,950 --> 01:00:30,480
um

1519
01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:32,960
and so i went down there and they have

1520
01:00:36,870 --> 01:00:34,960
the pictures of the inmates that were on

1521
01:00:38,710 --> 01:00:36,880
death row and the pictures that they

1522
01:00:41,910 --> 01:00:38,720
have are creepy as hell because it's

1523
01:00:44,710 --> 01:00:41,920
like the inmates like eating lunch like

1524
01:00:45,589 --> 01:00:44,720
what the hell

1525
01:00:51,510 --> 01:00:45,599
they're

1526
01:00:53,030 --> 01:00:51,520
living and like so to see that is

1527
01:00:55,829 --> 01:00:53,040
disturbing

1528
01:00:57,510 --> 01:00:55,839
you know um

1529
01:00:59,109 --> 01:00:57,520
yeah they're well yeah it was like

1530
01:01:01,349 --> 01:00:59,119
they're well it was all their meals

1531
01:01:04,309 --> 01:01:01,359
basically on the um my roommate's time

1532
01:01:07,349 --> 01:01:05,910
he's like their last meal it was their

1533
01:01:09,109 --> 01:01:07,359
it was their last bunch of meals they

1534
01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:09,119
were like in a mess hall

1535
01:01:13,349 --> 01:01:10,960
and it's them like

1536
01:01:15,109 --> 01:01:13,359
yeah and it's the old prison style

1537
01:01:16,710 --> 01:01:15,119
scally caps and stuff that they were

1538
01:01:19,990 --> 01:01:16,720
wearing and it was like you know it was

1539
01:01:21,589 --> 01:01:20,000
just super like whoa

1540
01:01:24,549 --> 01:01:21,599
yeah like you're picking them in their

1541
01:01:26,390 --> 01:01:24,559
life almost but it's so creepy we had

1542
01:01:28,309 --> 01:01:26,400
some questions from the live chat i

1543
01:01:30,390 --> 01:01:28,319
think somebody asked if you had some of

1544
01:01:31,750 --> 01:01:30,400
those evps that you could play us but i

1545
01:01:33,430 --> 01:01:31,760
don't think that you're really prepared

1546
01:01:35,589 --> 01:01:33,440
for that maybe you can get some to us

1547
01:01:38,309 --> 01:01:35,599
and we can do that on another show

1548
01:01:40,069 --> 01:01:38,319
please yeah definitely um i might have

1549
01:01:42,309 --> 01:01:40,079
them on youtube um

1550
01:01:45,190 --> 01:01:42,319
so if you look up paranormal expeditions

1551
01:01:46,630 --> 01:01:45,200
videos on youtube um and the e is

1552
01:01:47,670 --> 01:01:46,640
missing from expedition so it's

1553
01:01:50,309 --> 01:01:47,680
paranormal

1554
01:01:53,109 --> 01:01:50,319
thanks for the x i'm aware of that yeah

1555
01:01:54,630 --> 01:01:53,119
and um so there's a lot on there i have

1556
01:01:56,950 --> 01:01:54,640
stuff from

1557
01:01:58,150 --> 01:01:56,960
lorraine warren's occult museum i have

1558
01:02:01,190 --> 01:01:58,160
stuff from

1559
01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:01,200
basically um eastern state waverly i've

1560
01:02:04,230 --> 01:02:02,880
been all over the place but this

1561
01:02:06,069 --> 01:02:04,240
specific one

1562
01:02:08,710 --> 01:02:06,079
i think is on youtube because i ran

1563
01:02:10,789 --> 01:02:08,720
across it not too long ago um

1564
01:02:12,549 --> 01:02:10,799
and recalled like listening to it being

1565
01:02:14,549 --> 01:02:12,559
like oh my gosh like

1566
01:02:17,510 --> 01:02:14,559
you know again i'm a terrible terrible

1567
01:02:19,510 --> 01:02:17,520
show host i will put the link for uh

1568
01:02:21,349 --> 01:02:19,520
rachel's paranormal expeditions in the

1569
01:02:23,829 --> 01:02:21,359
about section as soon as i get a chance

1570
01:02:25,829 --> 01:02:23,839
because she's got all of these videos

1571
01:02:28,390 --> 01:02:25,839
here with ghost hunting and her

1572
01:02:30,710 --> 01:02:28,400
paranormal expeditions right yeah

1573
01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:30,720
there's a lot there's trump crime you

1574
01:02:35,670 --> 01:02:33,280
can have haunted acres here

1575
01:02:38,069 --> 01:02:35,680
well we got a ufo sighting there

1576
01:02:39,910 --> 01:02:38,079
yep we all had a ufo

1577
01:02:41,190 --> 01:02:39,920
it's crazy yeah it's a crazy it's a

1578
01:02:42,950 --> 01:02:41,200
crazy experience when you have a bunch

1579
01:02:45,589 --> 01:02:42,960
of paranormal investigators together and

1580
01:02:46,789 --> 01:02:45,599
you're you're on like a three-story ship

1581
01:02:49,109 --> 01:02:46,799
and then all of a sudden you're like

1582
01:02:52,470 --> 01:02:49,119
okay well can't deny what we're seeing

1583
01:02:56,710 --> 01:02:54,789
yeah look at this all things haunted uh

1584
01:02:59,750 --> 01:02:56,720
uh this is creepy

1585
01:03:01,589 --> 01:02:59,760
yeah that's that's lorraine warren's um

1586
01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:01,599
occult museum when it was everyone i

1587
01:03:05,029 --> 01:03:03,599
would love to have seen that

1588
01:03:07,510 --> 01:03:05,039
yeah that was when

1589
01:03:09,029 --> 01:03:07,520
that was when annabelle was still in the

1590
01:03:11,029 --> 01:03:09,039
museum

1591
01:03:11,990 --> 01:03:11,039
oh my new hair looks cool in the night

1592
01:03:14,230 --> 01:03:12,000
vision

1593
01:03:15,910 --> 01:03:14,240
yeah it does looks really shiny

1594
01:03:19,109 --> 01:03:15,920
i gotta have the night vision cameras

1595
01:03:23,349 --> 01:03:21,589
yeah we were um we were driving now

1596
01:03:27,190 --> 01:03:23,359
we're driving this week that was a drive

1597
01:03:30,789 --> 01:03:28,710
she was an interesting lady i would love

1598
01:03:32,870 --> 01:03:30,799
to see what happens and gotten to know

1599
01:03:34,630 --> 01:03:32,880
her and talk to her i spent a lot of

1600
01:03:36,950 --> 01:03:34,640
time with her and she took me over to

1601
01:03:38,789 --> 01:03:36,960
her husband's grave on this night so if

1602
01:03:40,789 --> 01:03:38,799
you i don't know i think we i think we

1603
01:03:42,390 --> 01:03:40,799
have it in the video

1604
01:03:47,270 --> 01:03:42,400
um

1605
01:03:50,069 --> 01:03:47,280
the hallway to the

1606
01:03:51,910 --> 01:03:50,079
to the uh actual place so people don't

1607
01:03:54,069 --> 01:03:51,920
realize the annabelle doll is just one

1608
01:03:55,430 --> 01:03:54,079
of the many things in mourinho they've

1609
01:03:57,510 --> 01:03:55,440
got a whole bunch they've got a whole

1610
01:04:00,230 --> 01:03:57,520
bunch of stuff in there oh my gosh yeah

1611
01:04:02,710 --> 01:04:00,240
there's um there's the vampire's grave

1612
01:04:04,390 --> 01:04:02,720
that creeped me out worse than anything

1613
01:04:07,589 --> 01:04:04,400
in here um

1614
01:04:10,390 --> 01:04:07,599
and then there's uh the white lady bride

1615
01:04:13,910 --> 01:04:10,400
uh the bones uh that were found in this

1616
01:04:15,750 --> 01:04:13,920
like huge statue uh in the woods

1617
01:04:17,510 --> 01:04:15,760
it's so creepy

1618
01:04:19,029 --> 01:04:17,520
you're telling your friend don't touch

1619
01:04:20,390 --> 01:04:19,039
anything i'm just going to turn this

1620
01:04:23,029 --> 01:04:20,400
down a little bit because we're talking

1621
01:04:24,789 --> 01:04:23,039
over it so yeah so there's for those who

1622
01:04:26,950 --> 01:04:24,799
don't know that this this is what the

1623
01:04:28,870 --> 01:04:26,960
conjuring was all based on

1624
01:04:30,710 --> 01:04:28,880
uh this couple that were paranormal

1625
01:04:33,190 --> 01:04:30,720
investigators and they've collected over

1626
01:04:34,470 --> 01:04:33,200
their career all these haunted cursed

1627
01:04:36,470 --> 01:04:34,480
items

1628
01:04:38,630 --> 01:04:36,480
yeah

1629
01:04:40,710 --> 01:04:38,640
there's lauren

1630
01:04:42,870 --> 01:04:40,720
yeah so a lot of people don't know like

1631
01:04:45,349 --> 01:04:42,880
that she's you know she's the lady from

1632
01:04:47,510 --> 01:04:45,359
annabelle in the conjuring and things so

1633
01:04:49,349 --> 01:04:47,520
it she was our friend you know what i

1634
01:04:50,950 --> 01:04:49,359
mean like we were we were going over

1635
01:04:51,670 --> 01:04:50,960
there eating spaghetti dinners with her

1636
01:04:56,630 --> 01:04:51,680
and

1637
01:04:58,230 --> 01:04:56,640
interviews with her actually um

1638
01:05:00,230 --> 01:04:58,240
the night that's uh

1639
01:05:03,029 --> 01:05:00,240
yeah yeah the night the conjuring came

1640
01:05:05,589 --> 01:05:03,039
out she sat down with me at um

1641
01:05:07,270 --> 01:05:05,599
at an italian restaurant and

1642
01:05:09,270 --> 01:05:07,280
gave us the time of day and told us all

1643
01:05:11,910 --> 01:05:09,280
about her experiences a girl likes

1644
01:05:13,270 --> 01:05:11,920
spaghetti dinners i guess

1645
01:05:15,190 --> 01:05:13,280
she really did she was a very

1646
01:05:17,910 --> 01:05:15,200
traditional lady and to be honest with

1647
01:05:20,069 --> 01:05:17,920
you in the end the only thing she really

1648
01:05:21,670 --> 01:05:20,079
cared about were her roosters like she

1649
01:05:23,270 --> 01:05:21,680
had roosters running around her house

1650
01:05:24,710 --> 01:05:23,280
which you might hear in the background

1651
01:05:27,270 --> 01:05:24,720
of this

1652
01:05:31,349 --> 01:05:28,710
my friend brought her across because she

1653
01:05:33,029 --> 01:05:31,359
was like super scared of everything and

1654
01:05:34,150 --> 01:05:33,039
so you can see it's super creepy in

1655
01:05:37,029 --> 01:05:34,160
there

1656
01:05:38,630 --> 01:05:37,039
she has many many items that just you

1657
01:05:41,589 --> 01:05:38,640
would think that that would be creepier

1658
01:05:44,549 --> 01:05:41,599
they found human bones in some of these

1659
01:05:46,549 --> 01:05:44,559
yeah some of those totems that they say

1660
01:05:50,470 --> 01:05:46,559
yeah

1661
01:05:52,470 --> 01:05:50,480
the people that right there

1662
01:05:54,390 --> 01:05:52,480
had human bones in it

1663
01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:54,400
oh that's bizarro

1664
01:05:57,270 --> 01:05:55,920
yeah

1665
01:05:59,349 --> 01:05:57,280
what happened to

1666
01:06:01,029 --> 01:05:59,359
to all these items into the annabelle

1667
01:06:05,029 --> 01:06:01,039
because i haven't caught up for quite

1668
01:06:07,029 --> 01:06:05,039
some time so tony sparrow is her um is

1669
01:06:08,870 --> 01:06:07,039
lorraine warren's um

1670
01:06:11,750 --> 01:06:08,880
brother son-in-law

1671
01:06:14,789 --> 01:06:11,760
yeah yeah and so that's judy's husband

1672
01:06:17,109 --> 01:06:14,799
and he right now has the annabelle

1673
01:06:19,910 --> 01:06:17,119
uh doll on tour

1674
01:06:21,829 --> 01:06:19,920
um doing like an all things haunted type

1675
01:06:23,589 --> 01:06:21,839
of tour with her

1676
01:06:24,950 --> 01:06:23,599
um which i'm not sure how lorraine

1677
01:06:26,470 --> 01:06:24,960
warren would really feel about that to

1678
01:06:28,309 --> 01:06:26,480
be honest with you she really didn't

1679
01:06:31,109 --> 01:06:28,319
want the doll moved from that location

1680
01:06:33,829 --> 01:06:31,119
or talked about or really anything but

1681
01:06:35,990 --> 01:06:33,839
um so i mean i used to they used to have

1682
01:06:37,510 --> 01:06:36,000
a priest come in every so often like

1683
01:06:39,270 --> 01:06:37,520
every month or something yeah she had a

1684
01:06:40,950 --> 01:06:39,280
priest living in her backyard yeah she

1685
01:06:43,990 --> 01:06:40,960
had actually he lived in her backyard

1686
01:06:46,150 --> 01:06:44,000
about 20 feet back like

1687
01:06:48,549 --> 01:06:46,160
but he would come and bless these items

1688
01:06:51,589 --> 01:06:48,559
everybody keep the evil

1689
01:06:53,270 --> 01:06:51,599
forces in them contained or every day

1690
01:06:55,270 --> 01:06:53,280
would be yeah he'd be there every day

1691
01:06:56,950 --> 01:06:55,280
and you know lorraine's catholic and she

1692
01:07:00,549 --> 01:06:56,960
was raised catholic and she was raised

1693
01:07:02,870 --> 01:07:00,559
by nuns and yeah so was i oh

1694
01:07:05,910 --> 01:07:02,880
very strict very taboo to be talking

1695
01:07:07,430 --> 01:07:05,920
about things in the paranormal at all

1696
01:07:09,109 --> 01:07:07,440
yeah we were taught we were taught

1697
01:07:11,589 --> 01:07:09,119
growing up that it's all it's all from

1698
01:07:13,589 --> 01:07:11,599
the devil and to even talk about it

1699
01:07:15,829 --> 01:07:13,599
inviting evil into your life

1700
01:07:19,349 --> 01:07:15,839
so interesting where i ended up in life

1701
01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:19,359
after being told that my whole childhood

1702
01:07:22,390 --> 01:07:20,640
even

1703
01:07:25,029 --> 01:07:22,400
you know we couldn't

1704
01:07:27,349 --> 01:07:25,039
have a ouija board we couldn't have any

1705
01:07:28,870 --> 01:07:27,359
books on the subject i once got a lot of

1706
01:07:31,029 --> 01:07:28,880
trouble with my father because i had

1707
01:07:34,150 --> 01:07:31,039
books on witchcraft and ghosts and

1708
01:07:36,230 --> 01:07:34,160
demons and you know that i just

1709
01:07:38,870 --> 01:07:36,240
that's catholicism i think that they

1710
01:07:40,870 --> 01:07:38,880
like they don't want i mean there may be

1711
01:07:43,029 --> 01:07:40,880
something to the to their belief that

1712
01:07:44,870 --> 01:07:43,039
it's all from evil and and you shouldn't

1713
01:07:46,230 --> 01:07:44,880
mess with these forces because it's

1714
01:07:47,829 --> 01:07:46,240
inviting

1715
01:07:50,630 --> 01:07:47,839
evil forces right

1716
01:07:54,789 --> 01:07:52,870
how do you feel about this stuff about

1717
01:07:56,710 --> 01:07:54,799
don't do you worry about some of the

1718
01:07:59,270 --> 01:07:56,720
stuff that you do might be dangerous to

1719
01:08:00,309 --> 01:07:59,280
you from a spiritual perspective or you

1720
01:08:02,150 --> 01:08:00,319
know

1721
01:08:07,029 --> 01:08:02,160
yeah

1722
01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:07,039
been um physically affected emotionally

1723
01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:08,880
affected when i was on the travel

1724
01:08:15,430 --> 01:08:11,520
channel with um zac vegans

1725
01:08:18,950 --> 01:08:15,440
i had a physical emotional um spiritual

1726
01:08:20,550 --> 01:08:18,960
reaction on film and you could see me

1727
01:08:22,470 --> 01:08:20,560
like shaking

1728
01:08:24,309 --> 01:08:22,480
and it was during the

1729
01:08:26,149 --> 01:08:24,319
the premiere episode of the paranormal

1730
01:08:29,110 --> 01:08:26,159
challenge

1731
01:08:31,590 --> 01:08:29,120
and when a ghost ran through my body and

1732
01:08:33,030 --> 01:08:31,600
he ran through my body and his his

1733
01:08:42,630 --> 01:08:33,040
like

1734
01:08:45,510 --> 01:08:42,640
went through my heart

1735
01:08:47,349 --> 01:08:45,520
and he was screaming and i was like i

1736
01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:47,359
was supposed to not say that because i

1737
01:08:50,630 --> 01:08:48,960
can't talk to the camera people i was

1738
01:08:54,950 --> 01:08:50,640
like turn the camera around turn it

1739
01:08:59,829 --> 01:08:57,349
so i've been affected i have gone to a

1740
01:09:01,749 --> 01:08:59,839
shaman to have spirits removed from me

1741
01:09:04,709 --> 01:09:01,759
and um you know i

1742
01:09:06,709 --> 01:09:04,719
i we in the paranormal call it uh a

1743
01:09:09,269 --> 01:09:06,719
paranormal hangover it's like a three

1744
01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:09,279
day after you i've heard that term i've

1745
01:09:12,470 --> 01:09:10,799
heard that term before from somebody

1746
01:09:13,829 --> 01:09:12,480
else that told me that

1747
01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:13,839
after they spend

1748
01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:16,480
you know a weekend at a haunted location

1749
01:09:20,870 --> 01:09:18,480
they they still feel some after effects

1750
01:09:21,910 --> 01:09:20,880
for several days and i should just

1751
01:09:23,110 --> 01:09:21,920
mention that

1752
01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:23,120
you know some people can be very

1753
01:09:26,470 --> 01:09:25,040
critical of me and like i didn't ask

1754
01:09:28,950 --> 01:09:26,480
this question or that question i'm not

1755
01:09:31,829 --> 01:09:28,960
very familiar with ghosts and demons and

1756
01:09:34,390 --> 01:09:31,839
and ghost hunting so i'm relying on

1757
01:09:35,349 --> 01:09:34,400
rachel here to inform us more because

1758
01:09:37,189 --> 01:09:35,359
i'm not

1759
01:09:40,630 --> 01:09:37,199
this is not my wheelhouse but we're

1760
01:09:43,030 --> 01:09:40,640
trying to bring in more uh more experts

1761
01:09:44,709 --> 01:09:43,040
and more people with these crazy

1762
01:09:46,070 --> 01:09:44,719
experiences

1763
01:09:48,550 --> 01:09:46,080
and uh

1764
01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:48,560
you've had you've had this uh an

1765
01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:50,880
incredible amount of experiences do you

1766
01:09:55,430 --> 01:09:53,199
think that you are

1767
01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:55,440
more sensitive to these

1768
01:10:02,310 --> 01:09:57,840
spirits and demons and energies than

1769
01:10:05,030 --> 01:10:02,320
than say i would be or more aware

1770
01:10:07,750 --> 01:10:05,040
um i'm definitely aware i don't have a

1771
01:10:09,510 --> 01:10:07,760
like a richter scale to know like how

1772
01:10:11,590 --> 01:10:09,520
sensitive the next person might be

1773
01:10:14,390 --> 01:10:11,600
because there are people that can't even

1774
01:10:16,550 --> 01:10:14,400
go into or around the paranormal like i

1775
01:10:18,310 --> 01:10:16,560
consider that very sensitive

1776
01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:18,320
in itself or they can't talk about it

1777
01:10:20,870 --> 01:10:19,920
they're fearful of it

1778
01:10:24,310 --> 01:10:20,880
um

1779
01:10:26,229 --> 01:10:24,320
so i'm sensitive by way of being open

1780
01:10:28,390 --> 01:10:26,239
and being like

1781
01:10:29,430 --> 01:10:28,400
you know allowing the experience to

1782
01:10:31,669 --> 01:10:29,440
happen

1783
01:10:33,830 --> 01:10:31,679
but i know that um

1784
01:10:37,030 --> 01:10:33,840
that there's been times where i'm

1785
01:10:39,270 --> 01:10:37,040
completely overwhelmed by

1786
01:10:40,709 --> 01:10:39,280
everything like it's it's a lot like you

1787
01:10:42,149 --> 01:10:40,719
go to a place where somebody's killed

1788
01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:42,159
themselves you go to a place where

1789
01:10:46,950 --> 01:10:45,040
somebody's been killed and it's like you

1790
01:10:47,830 --> 01:10:46,960
relive the last moments of their life

1791
01:10:50,070 --> 01:10:47,840
for

1792
01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:50,080
you know a very short period it takes

1793
01:10:52,390 --> 01:10:51,440
your breath away

1794
01:11:01,270 --> 01:10:52,400
and

1795
01:11:03,830 --> 01:11:01,280
know like it just really hits home when

1796
01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:03,840
you're in on an investigation and a

1797
01:11:07,750 --> 01:11:05,920
ghost says something about their child

1798
01:11:09,590 --> 01:11:07,760
from beyond the grave when you ask what

1799
01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:09,600
they have to say what they have any last

1800
01:11:13,510 --> 01:11:11,760
words like they're surprised so as a

1801
01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:13,520
parent yourself that's that's got to

1802
01:11:18,709 --> 01:11:16,480
affect you right there's annabelle

1803
01:11:20,229 --> 01:11:18,719
yes that does affect me

1804
01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:20,239
yeah and what a lot of people don't know

1805
01:11:23,430 --> 01:11:21,120
is that

1806
01:11:25,350 --> 01:11:23,440
it's not what they depict in the movie

1807
01:11:28,070 --> 01:11:25,360
it's like a raggedy

1808
01:11:30,790 --> 01:11:28,080
andy doll right yeah and see how fast we

1809
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:30,800
went over her i mean she was a big deal

1810
01:11:34,870 --> 01:11:32,880
but like there was other things there

1811
01:11:37,669 --> 01:11:34,880
that were a really big deal you know

1812
01:11:39,590 --> 01:11:37,679
like also so

1813
01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:39,600
people pick and choose what they like

1814
01:11:43,830 --> 01:11:41,760
for you know what they what they find

1815
01:11:46,870 --> 01:11:43,840
scary for the paranormal and some people

1816
01:11:49,110 --> 01:11:46,880
are very afraid of dolls she had she had

1817
01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:49,120
you know been responsible for deaths and

1818
01:11:52,470 --> 01:11:50,320
things so

1819
01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:52,480
there was a natural fear of her because

1820
01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:54,880
there were deaths attached to her

1821
01:11:58,870 --> 01:11:55,920
story

1822
01:12:01,990 --> 01:11:58,880
do you know do you know how uh how did

1823
01:12:03,990 --> 01:12:02,000
uh lorraine and and ed i suppose while i

1824
01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:04,000
was still alive you know how did they

1825
01:12:08,229 --> 01:12:05,360
feel about

1826
01:12:09,590 --> 01:12:08,239
the hollywood versions of their story

1827
01:12:11,510 --> 01:12:09,600
because

1828
01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:11,520
you know i felt like they started off

1829
01:12:15,270 --> 01:12:13,760
like pretty accurate and it seems like

1830
01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:15,280
they're just getting

1831
01:12:19,910 --> 01:12:16,560
more and more

1832
01:12:22,630 --> 01:12:19,920
fantastical bizarre made up that had

1833
01:12:25,430 --> 01:12:22,640
very little to do with their actual

1834
01:12:26,790 --> 01:12:25,440
experiences like they take one little

1835
01:12:28,630 --> 01:12:26,800
you know

1836
01:12:30,229 --> 01:12:28,640
one little thing that happened to them

1837
01:12:32,149 --> 01:12:30,239
and they and they

1838
01:12:33,270 --> 01:12:32,159
bought them for hollywood yeah now

1839
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:33,280
there's

1840
01:12:40,390 --> 01:12:38,320
daughter or daughter that's worshiping

1841
01:12:41,350 --> 01:12:40,400
demons you know

1842
01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:41,360
yeah

1843
01:12:46,310 --> 01:12:43,520
and that none of that was real

1844
01:12:49,830 --> 01:12:46,320
no in my interview in my interview with

1845
01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:49,840
larrange she's so innocent and so sweet

1846
01:12:53,110 --> 01:12:50,960
um

1847
01:12:55,030 --> 01:12:53,120
she talks about it she talks about what

1848
01:12:56,870 --> 01:12:55,040
was not real and she was laughing about

1849
01:12:58,310 --> 01:12:56,880
what wasn't real and

1850
01:13:00,950 --> 01:12:58,320
just talking about little things that

1851
01:13:02,870 --> 01:13:00,960
hollywood added to the story and she

1852
01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:02,880
would whisper into the camera like she

1853
01:13:06,149 --> 01:13:04,560
would whisper like as if the world

1854
01:13:09,189 --> 01:13:06,159
wouldn't hear her if she was whispering

1855
01:13:11,590 --> 01:13:09,199
it was just adorable but she um

1856
01:13:13,990 --> 01:13:11,600
yeah no um she's like even this the

1857
01:13:15,910 --> 01:13:14,000
depiction i'm sorry to interrupt you

1858
01:13:18,149 --> 01:13:15,920
the depiction of annabelle in the

1859
01:13:21,189 --> 01:13:18,159
hollywood movies is like a creepy

1860
01:13:23,990 --> 01:13:21,199
ventriloquist girl doll yes or like

1861
01:13:25,350 --> 01:13:24,000
porcelain doll that looks extremely evil

1862
01:13:28,149 --> 01:13:25,360
and creepy

1863
01:13:31,350 --> 01:13:28,159
whereas the reality is that this is like

1864
01:13:34,070 --> 01:13:31,360
a raggedy and doll that is not at all

1865
01:13:36,390 --> 01:13:34,080
creepy or imposing it looks like a

1866
01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:36,400
a toy that any little girl would have

1867
01:13:44,149 --> 01:13:42,950
yeah i don't know that last one i saw i

1868
01:13:46,390 --> 01:13:44,159
can't remember which one it was but it

1869
01:13:47,110 --> 01:13:46,400
was about the nun and the priest you

1870
01:13:47,990 --> 01:13:47,120
know

1871
01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:48,000
yeah

1872
01:13:51,189 --> 01:13:49,840
those are very embellished

1873
01:13:54,390 --> 01:13:51,199
very embellished

1874
01:13:56,229 --> 01:13:54,400
if if at all real uh yeah they could

1875
01:13:58,870 --> 01:13:56,239
they could be finding a lot more

1876
01:14:01,270 --> 01:13:58,880
interesting factoids about the warrens

1877
01:14:04,149 --> 01:14:01,280
if they really dug into the

1878
01:14:06,390 --> 01:14:04,159
you know whole thing but honestly like

1879
01:14:08,229 --> 01:14:06,400
people are just they they want to go

1880
01:14:10,229 --> 01:14:08,239
complete hollywood sometimes with these

1881
01:14:11,990 --> 01:14:10,239
stories so

1882
01:14:14,390 --> 01:14:12,000
well i understand it's hollywood you got

1883
01:14:15,669 --> 01:14:14,400
to dramatize things but i think they i

1884
01:14:17,830 --> 01:14:15,679
don't know for me

1885
01:14:20,229 --> 01:14:17,840
i would rather i i suppose what i should

1886
01:14:23,430 --> 01:14:20,239
say is i would rather see a two-hour

1887
01:14:25,350 --> 01:14:23,440
documentary with fax and and

1888
01:14:28,070 --> 01:14:25,360
lorraine warren recounting her

1889
01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:28,080
experiences her real experiences and

1890
01:14:32,070 --> 01:14:30,400
recounting their real experiences than a

1891
01:14:33,830 --> 01:14:32,080
than a fictionalized

1892
01:14:35,910 --> 01:14:33,840
story where they tacked on all kinds of

1893
01:14:37,189 --> 01:14:35,920
extra drama that didn't really happen

1894
01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:37,199
but they're still enjoying it you can

1895
01:14:46,149 --> 01:14:44,229
mine's all real yeah and i go through

1896
01:14:49,350 --> 01:14:46,159
each one of the items and talk about

1897
01:14:51,270 --> 01:14:49,360
like every every one of them um you know

1898
01:14:52,310 --> 01:14:51,280
kind of give the back story

1899
01:14:56,870 --> 01:14:52,320
we

1900
01:14:58,630 --> 01:14:56,880
the items beforehand so

1901
01:15:01,510 --> 01:14:58,640
really beautiful like that's really

1902
01:15:02,550 --> 01:15:01,520
beautiful i mean that's it's so gorgeous

1903
01:15:05,110 --> 01:15:02,560
it

1904
01:15:06,550 --> 01:15:05,120
there's so many there's so many i have i

1905
01:15:08,550 --> 01:15:06,560
have that book

1906
01:15:10,310 --> 01:15:08,560
mastering witchcraft that's my part of

1907
01:15:11,830 --> 01:15:10,320
houston that's a very famous book on

1908
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:11,840
witchcraft written in i believe in the

1909
01:15:17,669 --> 01:15:14,880
late 1960s and it's largely responsible

1910
01:15:19,350 --> 01:15:17,679
for popularizing witchcraft in both

1911
01:15:21,510 --> 01:15:19,360
england and the united states and i

1912
01:15:23,430 --> 01:15:21,520
probably have this one too and i can't

1913
01:15:24,870 --> 01:15:23,440
really make up the other one but it's

1914
01:15:26,149 --> 01:15:24,880
interesting that they have some books on

1915
01:15:27,669 --> 01:15:26,159
display

1916
01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:27,679
you got to know the subject even if

1917
01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:30,080
you're uh catholic and think it's all

1918
01:15:34,790 --> 01:15:32,080
evil i suppose right yeah and a lot of

1919
01:15:36,950 --> 01:15:34,800
these things were gifted to the warrens

1920
01:15:39,590 --> 01:15:36,960
from other people that didn't want them

1921
01:15:41,189 --> 01:15:39,600
because they were afraid of

1922
01:15:43,990 --> 01:15:41,199
you know

1923
01:15:46,630 --> 01:15:44,000
they were afraid of the item they knew

1924
01:15:48,950 --> 01:15:46,640
that it felt some kind of a dark force

1925
01:15:51,110 --> 01:15:48,960
and so

1926
01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:51,120
he burnt my books when i was a kid he

1927
01:15:56,310 --> 01:15:52,480
burnt them

1928
01:15:58,229 --> 01:15:56,320
he thought there was evil even even

1929
01:15:59,990 --> 01:15:58,239
in the pages of a book there was evil

1930
01:16:02,310 --> 01:16:00,000
forces because of the things that were

1931
01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:02,320
in the book they might be inhabited by

1932
01:16:06,149 --> 01:16:04,239
dark or evil spirits so he would burn

1933
01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:06,159
stuff

1934
01:16:09,189 --> 01:16:07,760
i don't blame him like there's a lot of

1935
01:16:10,630 --> 01:16:09,199
things that would scare the hell out of

1936
01:16:13,030 --> 01:16:10,640
me too if you didn't know better you

1937
01:16:14,630 --> 01:16:13,040
know that a lot of times now we know not

1938
01:16:17,350 --> 01:16:14,640
to burn things we

1939
01:16:19,350 --> 01:16:17,360
know to bury them or to

1940
01:16:21,669 --> 01:16:19,360
somebody like the rain

1941
01:16:22,709 --> 01:16:21,679
yeah so they wouldn't like be bailed

1942
01:16:24,709 --> 01:16:22,719
right

1943
01:16:26,790 --> 01:16:24,719
yeah yeah well she kept them safe i feel

1944
01:16:29,030 --> 01:16:26,800
like with the priest blessing it all the

1945
01:16:31,510 --> 01:16:29,040
time and kind of this whole little

1946
01:16:33,750 --> 01:16:31,520
cavity is underneath the cave

1947
01:16:35,510 --> 01:16:33,760
you know what i'm saying it's not like

1948
01:16:37,750 --> 01:16:35,520
you can't you can't just get there you

1949
01:16:39,510 --> 01:16:37,760
can't just walk in from the street like

1950
01:16:41,750 --> 01:16:39,520
it's funny because in some of my videos

1951
01:16:43,350 --> 01:16:41,760
i actually take the video camera and

1952
01:16:45,830 --> 01:16:43,360
show you the whole way to get to her

1953
01:16:47,910 --> 01:16:45,840
house and like it was just common things

1954
01:16:49,669 --> 01:16:47,920
that we did back then you know that's

1955
01:16:51,910 --> 01:16:49,679
interesting so she just gave tours of

1956
01:16:53,990 --> 01:16:51,920
this room though didn't she worry that

1957
01:16:55,750 --> 01:16:54,000
that that some of those evil forces

1958
01:16:57,910 --> 01:16:55,760
might attach themselves to people or

1959
01:16:59,830 --> 01:16:57,920
whatever because i can see people being

1960
01:17:02,310 --> 01:16:59,840
critical of like let's turn this into a

1961
01:17:04,709 --> 01:17:02,320
spectacle and charge people 10 bucks to

1962
01:17:07,189 --> 01:17:04,719
come in and look at this stuff right

1963
01:17:10,390 --> 01:17:07,199
she would do um she would do her

1964
01:17:12,550 --> 01:17:10,400
lectures and then show people um it was

1965
01:17:14,870 --> 01:17:12,560
educational for her she didn't

1966
01:17:17,910 --> 01:17:14,880
personally go back um

1967
01:17:19,590 --> 01:17:17,920
she sent uh tony sparrow who's the one

1968
01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:19,600
that right now has the annabelle doll

1969
01:17:24,630 --> 01:17:21,360
who's behind me in the video

1970
01:17:27,270 --> 01:17:24,640
um and she um she's in that box that's

1971
01:17:29,669 --> 01:17:27,280
so famous that holds her

1972
01:17:31,910 --> 01:17:29,679
yeah yeah so

1973
01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:31,920
yeah he ran the he ran the tours and

1974
01:17:36,310 --> 01:17:34,000
things like that now my head hit the

1975
01:17:38,310 --> 01:17:36,320
vampire's coffin when i was there and it

1976
01:17:40,310 --> 01:17:38,320
actually like gave me nightmares there

1977
01:17:43,270 --> 01:17:40,320
it is the vampire's coffin it's

1978
01:17:44,870 --> 01:17:43,280
that um that is the vampire's graveyard

1979
01:17:45,910 --> 01:17:44,880
in mountains

1980
01:17:47,590 --> 01:17:45,920
you're going to tell us about this

1981
01:17:49,189 --> 01:17:47,600
vampire squad how did they get a

1982
01:17:52,149 --> 01:17:49,199
vampire's coffin this is supposed to be

1983
01:17:54,390 --> 01:17:52,159
like a a coffin from a real vampire

1984
01:17:56,950 --> 01:17:54,400
yeah so what happened was this guy he

1985
01:17:59,510 --> 01:17:56,960
would not stop inhabiting this

1986
01:18:02,149 --> 01:17:59,520
coffin and drinking blood and so

1987
01:18:04,229 --> 01:18:02,159
basically his family had him put into an

1988
01:18:06,470 --> 01:18:04,239
institution which he's still in

1989
01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:06,480
and then they were freaked out about the

1990
01:18:09,430 --> 01:18:08,320
the coffin so they gave it to the

1991
01:18:14,149 --> 01:18:09,440
warrens

1992
01:18:15,990 --> 01:18:14,159
guy passed like keep there's and going

1993
01:18:17,830 --> 01:18:16,000
to visit the guy at the what they called

1994
01:18:19,189 --> 01:18:17,840
the vampire's graveyard which is like

1995
01:18:22,390 --> 01:18:19,199
where all the people that believed that

1996
01:18:24,229 --> 01:18:22,400
they were vampires were buried

1997
01:18:27,030 --> 01:18:24,239
no that's pretty interesting i've never

1998
01:18:30,229 --> 01:18:27,040
my head hit that my head hit that

1999
01:18:32,149 --> 01:18:30,239
coffin and i had awful nightmares

2000
01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:32,159
so this guy was just a regular human

2001
01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:33,760
though but maybe he had mental illness

2002
01:18:36,390 --> 01:18:34,960
or something and he was just drinking

2003
01:18:37,910 --> 01:18:36,400
blood thinking he was a vampire and

2004
01:18:39,910 --> 01:18:37,920
sleeping in a coffin

2005
01:18:41,430 --> 01:18:39,920
yeah or maybe he was a vampire thinking

2006
01:18:42,950 --> 01:18:41,440
that he was a human like you know what i

2007
01:18:45,430 --> 01:18:42,960
mean like i really don't know i believe

2008
01:18:48,070 --> 01:18:45,440
in different supernatural things but um

2009
01:18:49,270 --> 01:18:48,080
it was definitely um it was definitely

2010
01:18:50,709 --> 01:18:49,280
creepy

2011
01:18:52,550 --> 01:18:50,719
and there's a whole there's a whole

2012
01:18:55,430 --> 01:18:52,560
graveyard somewhere where is that the

2013
01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:55,440
vampire's graveyard that's an um that's

2014
01:19:00,310 --> 01:18:57,600
an eastern mass um i don't know the

2015
01:19:02,390 --> 01:19:00,320
exact address but i know that

2016
01:19:04,709 --> 01:19:02,400
that's an interesting story yeah it's

2017
01:19:07,030 --> 01:19:04,719
called the vampire's graveyard and you

2018
01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:07,040
can see obviously it's a very small

2019
01:19:12,070 --> 01:19:09,520
graveyard it's got the um

2020
01:19:14,630 --> 01:19:12,080
it's got that that small fence that's

2021
01:19:15,590 --> 01:19:14,640
bowing down in the front

2022
01:19:20,070 --> 01:19:15,600
um

2023
01:19:23,030 --> 01:19:20,080
they're over by stephanie s-t-e-p-h

2024
01:19:25,430 --> 01:19:23,040
and why i believe um cemetery so it

2025
01:19:27,669 --> 01:19:25,440
might be like around that origin

2026
01:19:29,430 --> 01:19:27,679
um but they traveled to

2027
01:19:31,510 --> 01:19:29,440
japan they traveled everywhere so it's

2028
01:19:32,870 --> 01:19:31,520
hard to say but this place could be

2029
01:19:34,390 --> 01:19:32,880
anywhere because they they went

2030
01:19:36,390 --> 01:19:34,400
everywhere

2031
01:19:37,350 --> 01:19:36,400
yeah and all of the stuff that's in her

2032
01:19:38,950 --> 01:19:37,360
little

2033
01:19:40,550 --> 01:19:38,960
this museum here is all stuff that

2034
01:19:41,669 --> 01:19:40,560
they've collected over the years of

2035
01:19:44,870 --> 01:19:41,679
their

2036
01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:44,880
paranormal research and different cases

2037
01:19:48,070 --> 01:19:46,320
yeah you can see

2038
01:19:51,189 --> 01:19:48,080
look um you can see

2039
01:19:52,229 --> 01:19:51,199
oh yeah we have some paranormal activity

2040
01:19:53,270 --> 01:19:52,239
on the

2041
01:19:55,590 --> 01:19:53,280
screen

2042
01:19:57,590 --> 01:19:55,600
so what winds up happening with some of

2043
01:19:59,189 --> 01:19:57,600
these in the video you know i was just

2044
01:20:01,110 --> 01:19:59,199
going to give the tour but paranormal

2045
01:20:04,070 --> 01:20:01,120
stuff was happening see the black thing

2046
01:20:06,550 --> 01:20:04,080
that just crosses the screen suddenly it

2047
01:20:09,590 --> 01:20:06,560
looks like a shadow yeah yeah and it is

2048
01:20:11,350 --> 01:20:09,600
completely opaque and so lorraine

2049
01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:11,360
um closed off this room she didn't want

2050
01:20:14,950 --> 01:20:12,880
anybody in this room

2051
01:20:18,470 --> 01:20:14,960
and so it was just

2052
01:20:20,229 --> 01:20:18,480
i just stuck my camera in there

2053
01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:20,239
and that's what i caught flying across

2054
01:20:23,990 --> 01:20:21,360
the room

2055
01:20:35,350 --> 01:20:24,000
and if you play the video

2056
01:20:39,430 --> 01:20:38,070
it sounds like it's creaking

2057
01:20:41,350 --> 01:20:39,440
hear it

2058
01:20:42,310 --> 01:20:41,360
oh well i'm gonna mess with your video

2059
01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:42,320
later

2060
01:20:45,270 --> 01:20:44,000
let's see if i can get a still of that

2061
01:20:47,350 --> 01:20:45,280
thing when it's right in the middle of

2062
01:20:49,030 --> 01:20:47,360
the screen that's pretty interesting and

2063
01:20:50,470 --> 01:20:49,040
listen to the listen to the noise it

2064
01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:50,480
makes it's

2065
01:20:54,550 --> 01:20:52,560
it's like an evil

2066
01:20:55,350 --> 01:20:54,560
devil or something i don't really know

2067
01:20:57,270 --> 01:20:55,360
but

2068
01:20:58,550 --> 01:20:57,280
it did that on other parts of the room

2069
01:21:00,550 --> 01:20:58,560
too so you can see the little

2070
01:21:03,990 --> 01:21:00,560
interference there

2071
01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:04,000
um there's more of that

2072
01:21:08,430 --> 01:21:06,639
and it stretches out and when it does it

2073
01:21:10,229 --> 01:21:08,440
sounds like a record like getting

2074
01:21:11,990 --> 01:21:10,239
scratched

2075
01:21:14,070 --> 01:21:12,000
so this is the room she told it nobody

2076
01:21:18,070 --> 01:21:14,080
to go into but i wanted to just show

2077
01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:18,950
it sounds like you had a good

2078
01:21:22,149 --> 01:21:20,560
relationship with her so she gave you

2079
01:21:24,629 --> 01:21:22,159
access to some of the areas that she

2080
01:21:26,470 --> 01:21:24,639
wouldn't give the regular people right

2081
01:21:28,870 --> 01:21:26,480
right and i was respectful and didn't

2082
01:21:31,830 --> 01:21:28,880
step into the

2083
01:21:35,189 --> 01:21:31,840
realm i just recorded it so that for

2084
01:21:37,590 --> 01:21:35,199
future like this you know 20 years later

2085
01:21:38,709 --> 01:21:37,600
um talking about it

2086
01:21:40,229 --> 01:21:38,719
it's like

2087
01:21:42,229 --> 01:21:40,239
you know you're able to see

2088
01:21:44,950 --> 01:21:42,239
this is 20 years ago you must not age

2089
01:21:46,629 --> 01:21:44,960
maybe you're a vampire yourself

2090
01:21:47,750 --> 01:21:46,639
you don't look any different

2091
01:21:49,350 --> 01:21:47,760
thank you

2092
01:21:50,950 --> 01:21:49,360
look at that yeah there's definitely

2093
01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:50,960
some kind of shadow that flies through

2094
01:21:54,470 --> 01:21:52,560
the room

2095
01:21:56,550 --> 01:21:54,480
and there's there's more in the

2096
01:21:59,510 --> 01:21:56,560
continuation of the video but again

2097
01:22:02,709 --> 01:21:59,520
every interruption of

2098
01:22:04,390 --> 01:22:02,719
uh visual is also followed by

2099
01:22:07,189 --> 01:22:04,400
you can see it coming out of the corner

2100
01:22:08,950 --> 01:22:07,199
it's followed by that ripping noise

2101
01:22:11,270 --> 01:22:08,960
and i didn't know i was catching it or i

2102
01:22:13,510 --> 01:22:11,280
would have kept the camera still

2103
01:22:15,750 --> 01:22:13,520
i didn't see some of that stuff until

2104
01:22:19,430 --> 01:22:15,760
after the um

2105
01:22:20,629 --> 01:22:19,440
until afterwards oh did i lose you

2106
01:22:23,510 --> 01:22:20,639
no i'm

2107
01:22:25,510 --> 01:22:23,520
oh i'm still here oh wait yeah there he

2108
01:22:28,229 --> 01:22:25,520
went sideways for a second i bleeped i

2109
01:22:32,709 --> 01:22:30,149
there you go maybe it's the demons

2110
01:22:34,229 --> 01:22:32,719
that's what they're affecting this [\h__\h]

2111
01:22:37,270 --> 01:22:34,239
they're not very happy that you're

2112
01:22:39,510 --> 01:22:37,280
showing people them on film maybe

2113
01:22:46,790 --> 01:22:39,520
i know so i touched that thing with my

2114
01:22:49,590 --> 01:22:48,070
there was something really going on it

2115
01:22:51,350 --> 01:22:49,600
was really cool though the whole

2116
01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:51,360
experience down there

2117
01:22:56,629 --> 01:22:53,840
and i have other videos with um with

2118
01:22:58,149 --> 01:22:56,639
lorraine isolated in the in the um

2119
01:22:59,990 --> 01:22:58,159
restaurants and stuff

2120
01:23:01,430 --> 01:23:00,000
talking about

2121
01:23:03,110 --> 01:23:01,440
you know yeah i think i've seen some of

2122
01:23:04,790 --> 01:23:03,120
those i think i've seen some of those

2123
01:23:07,270 --> 01:23:04,800
but it was it's been some time since i

2124
01:23:09,270 --> 01:23:07,280
looked at those yeah definitely an

2125
01:23:10,950 --> 01:23:09,280
interesting lady and she dedicated her

2126
01:23:13,030 --> 01:23:10,960
life they people don't know this but

2127
01:23:14,070 --> 01:23:13,040
they they weren't like charging people

2128
01:23:14,790 --> 01:23:14,080
money

2129
01:23:16,950 --> 01:23:14,800
right

2130
01:23:19,110 --> 01:23:16,960
they were uh if somebody had like a

2131
01:23:21,910 --> 01:23:19,120
demonic infestation or a haunted house

2132
01:23:25,110 --> 01:23:21,920
they would go and try to help the family

2133
01:23:27,030 --> 01:23:25,120
to exercise the demons or get rid of the

2134
01:23:27,990 --> 01:23:27,040
spirits that were causing the family

2135
01:23:31,189 --> 01:23:28,000
harm

2136
01:23:32,149 --> 01:23:31,199
or trauma and and they did that for free

2137
01:23:34,629 --> 01:23:32,159
they weren't

2138
01:23:37,910 --> 01:23:34,639
you know profiteers you know back then

2139
01:23:41,030 --> 01:23:37,920
there wasn't 16 65 ghost hunting shows

2140
01:23:43,110 --> 01:23:41,040
on television so no yeah i know

2141
01:23:45,030 --> 01:23:43,120
everyone did some television appearances

2142
01:23:47,590 --> 01:23:45,040
but they were basically interviews about

2143
01:23:49,669 --> 01:23:47,600
their experiences you know yeah there

2144
01:23:51,030 --> 01:23:49,679
you can see if you archive some of them

2145
01:23:52,629 --> 01:23:51,040
but they um

2146
01:23:55,189 --> 01:23:52,639
you know they had gotten death threats

2147
01:23:57,590 --> 01:23:55,199
and things from

2148
01:23:59,270 --> 01:23:57,600
um from people for doing these ghost

2149
01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:59,280
hunts like it was a very different world

2150
01:24:02,870 --> 01:24:00,960
back then too you know

2151
01:24:05,350 --> 01:24:02,880
we were afraid of getting our name

2152
01:24:07,830 --> 01:24:05,360
written in the devil's book

2153
01:24:09,990 --> 01:24:07,840
yeah and then they were they were active

2154
01:24:11,350 --> 01:24:10,000
during that whole satanic panic and the

2155
01:24:13,270 --> 01:24:11,360
cults and

2156
01:24:15,590 --> 01:24:13,280
ritual abuse that may or may not have

2157
01:24:17,990 --> 01:24:15,600
happened and people were seeing satanic

2158
01:24:19,590 --> 01:24:18,000
cults and demons in a lot of places that

2159
01:24:21,590 --> 01:24:19,600
they may not have been

2160
01:24:23,590 --> 01:24:21,600
yeah well there was the whole situation

2161
01:24:26,149 --> 01:24:23,600
with bundy ramirez

2162
01:24:28,229 --> 01:24:26,159
um there was this scare coming on from

2163
01:24:29,910 --> 01:24:28,239
you know there was a there was a

2164
01:24:31,350 --> 01:24:29,920
lot of serial killers that kind of made

2165
01:24:32,470 --> 01:24:31,360
headlines there was always serial

2166
01:24:34,149 --> 01:24:32,480
killers but

2167
01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:34,159
you know they were making headlines they

2168
01:24:39,189 --> 01:24:35,040
were

2169
01:24:42,149 --> 01:24:39,199
every day and the news was a big thing

2170
01:24:44,870 --> 01:24:42,159
we were able to see what was um

2171
01:24:46,629 --> 01:24:44,880
transpiring in their trials and hearing

2172
01:24:48,390 --> 01:24:46,639
the gritty details of what they did to

2173
01:24:49,830 --> 01:24:48,400
their victims and

2174
01:24:51,830 --> 01:24:49,840
it's a different yeah there's such a

2175
01:24:52,550 --> 01:24:51,840
morbid interest in that that a lot of

2176
01:24:55,350 --> 01:24:52,560
the

2177
01:24:57,350 --> 01:24:55,360
grisly details would leak out in one way

2178
01:24:59,350 --> 01:24:57,360
or another either through a writer

2179
01:25:01,030 --> 01:24:59,360
contacting them and interviewing them in

2180
01:25:02,229 --> 01:25:01,040
prison before they were executed or

2181
01:25:05,430 --> 01:25:02,239
whatever

2182
01:25:06,070 --> 01:25:05,440
and newspaper articles about the murders

2183
01:25:10,470 --> 01:25:06,080
and

2184
01:25:11,430 --> 01:25:10,480
then a lot of those serial killers you

2185
01:25:13,110 --> 01:25:11,440
know they

2186
01:25:15,669 --> 01:25:13,120
sort of played up like the night stalker

2187
01:25:18,070 --> 01:25:15,679
played up the whole satanism thing

2188
01:25:20,709 --> 01:25:18,080
yes i was just watching the ramirez um

2189
01:25:22,229 --> 01:25:20,719
situation today and it was so weird like

2190
01:25:24,470 --> 01:25:22,239
there's so many women that are obsessed

2191
01:25:25,990 --> 01:25:24,480
with these serial killers that a lot of

2192
01:25:28,390 --> 01:25:26,000
people think i'm obsessed with the

2193
01:25:31,030 --> 01:25:28,400
serial killers when in fact what i'm

2194
01:25:33,189 --> 01:25:31,040
obsessed with is the survivors

2195
01:25:35,350 --> 01:25:33,199
the people that the mothers that the

2196
01:25:37,430 --> 01:25:35,360
sisters the people that are moving on

2197
01:25:39,510 --> 01:25:37,440
from the death of their family member

2198
01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:39,520
that has been killed in a heinous way

2199
01:25:43,270 --> 01:25:41,199
and their bodies have been found in a

2200
01:25:45,830 --> 01:25:43,280
grotesque manner

2201
01:25:47,990 --> 01:25:45,840
my interest is telling the story of the

2202
01:25:51,270 --> 01:25:48,000
victim and also

2203
01:25:53,430 --> 01:25:51,280
the the survivors i how you survive

2204
01:25:54,550 --> 01:25:53,440
after a tragedy like that is so

2205
01:25:56,470 --> 01:25:54,560
important

2206
01:25:59,430 --> 01:25:56,480
and the common thread that i find with

2207
01:26:01,830 --> 01:25:59,440
people that are surviving victims of

2208
01:26:05,270 --> 01:26:01,840
individuals that they've lost from

2209
01:26:08,070 --> 01:26:05,280
murderers like ted bundy gacy

2210
01:26:10,629 --> 01:26:08,080
what i find is they survive well or

2211
01:26:13,350 --> 01:26:10,639
better when they start a foundation in

2212
01:26:15,830 --> 01:26:13,360
the name of their loved one

2213
01:26:17,750 --> 01:26:15,840
and they start a plight and they talk

2214
01:26:20,229 --> 01:26:17,760
about it and they use platforms and

2215
01:26:22,149 --> 01:26:20,239
lectures because i've also seen parents

2216
01:26:24,550 --> 01:26:22,159
that they die within a month of their

2217
01:26:27,030 --> 01:26:24,560
child like they just don't want to be on

2218
01:26:29,110 --> 01:26:27,040
this earth anymore but there's also

2219
01:26:31,350 --> 01:26:29,120
people that you know they they have

2220
01:26:33,270 --> 01:26:31,360
different ways of grieving and yeah look

2221
01:26:34,950 --> 01:26:33,280
at john walsh a lot of people don't know

2222
01:26:37,030 --> 01:26:34,960
but well look they should know john

2223
01:26:38,629 --> 01:26:37,040
walsh from america's most wanted and he

2224
01:26:40,790 --> 01:26:38,639
has a new show now

2225
01:26:42,550 --> 01:26:40,800
he he lost his six-year-old son

2226
01:26:46,149 --> 01:26:42,560
tragically to murder

2227
01:26:48,709 --> 01:26:46,159
and uh he he turned that into his life's

2228
01:26:51,430 --> 01:26:48,719
work to try to help missing children and

2229
01:26:53,189 --> 01:26:51,440
victims of crime and catch the bad guys

2230
01:26:55,350 --> 01:26:53,199
and that gave him some purpose and maybe

2231
01:26:57,430 --> 01:26:55,360
helped him survive that tragedy

2232
01:26:59,189 --> 01:26:57,440
because you know i i got a five-year-old

2233
01:27:01,669 --> 01:26:59,199
boy i couldn't even imagine i think i

2234
01:27:03,830 --> 01:27:01,679
would be a mess

2235
01:27:05,990 --> 01:27:03,840
adam walsh was killed 15 minutes after

2236
01:27:08,629 --> 01:27:06,000
he was captured he was decapitated with

2237
01:27:10,629 --> 01:27:08,639
in such a short realm of time

2238
01:27:13,350 --> 01:27:10,639
and he was um

2239
01:27:15,910 --> 01:27:13,360
his killer was actually like questioned

2240
01:27:17,189 --> 01:27:15,920
and let go just like the just like the

2241
01:27:19,510 --> 01:27:17,199
zodiac killer

2242
01:27:21,750 --> 01:27:19,520
you know and just like ted bundy

2243
01:27:23,510 --> 01:27:21,760
question let go question let go so um

2244
01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:23,520
something had put him on the radar

2245
01:27:27,030 --> 01:27:25,199
previous to that but they really just

2246
01:27:28,550 --> 01:27:27,040
didn't even find out until about three

2247
01:27:30,709 --> 01:27:28,560
or four

2248
01:27:33,270 --> 01:27:30,719
maybe five years ago when they did the

2249
01:27:34,790 --> 01:27:33,280
forensic dna on the car that was

2250
01:27:36,870 --> 01:27:34,800
impounded

2251
01:27:39,189 --> 01:27:36,880
yeah but they saw that horrific blood

2252
01:27:41,030 --> 01:27:39,199
print of the face and it was just i mean

2253
01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:41,040
it was obviously

2254
01:27:45,350 --> 01:27:43,440
adam walsh like it was you know you see

2255
01:27:48,070 --> 01:27:45,360
a picture of him then you see his the

2256
01:27:49,510 --> 01:27:48,080
blood stain it was it was horrific and

2257
01:27:51,669 --> 01:27:49,520
but um

2258
01:27:55,430 --> 01:27:51,679
but john walsh is a hero

2259
01:27:57,270 --> 01:27:55,440
and yeah he he not only had to fight

2260
01:27:58,629 --> 01:27:57,280
through his own situation and fight

2261
01:28:00,950 --> 01:27:58,639
through his own grief him and his wife

2262
01:28:02,470 --> 01:28:00,960
wound up having four more children um

2263
01:28:03,590 --> 01:28:02,480
i read their whole entire life story

2264
01:28:05,510 --> 01:28:03,600
because they're such interesting

2265
01:28:06,629 --> 01:28:05,520
individuals but again that survivor

2266
01:28:08,870 --> 01:28:06,639
aspect

2267
01:28:10,950 --> 01:28:08,880
you need to have um

2268
01:28:12,550 --> 01:28:10,960
you know you need to have hope in some

2269
01:28:15,270 --> 01:28:12,560
way to

2270
01:28:17,189 --> 01:28:15,280
survive and i find that the people that

2271
01:28:19,669 --> 01:28:17,199
you know that they build the foundations

2272
01:28:23,270 --> 01:28:19,679
and they speak out they they thrive

2273
01:28:25,189 --> 01:28:23,280
better than the the people that don't

2274
01:28:27,189 --> 01:28:25,199
yeah yeah well

2275
01:28:29,189 --> 01:28:27,199
i yeah my heart goes out to those kind

2276
01:28:31,910 --> 01:28:29,199
of or all victims of of those kind of

2277
01:28:33,910 --> 01:28:31,920
horrific crimes you know like

2278
01:28:35,669 --> 01:28:33,920
just and especially people that are

2279
01:28:36,790 --> 01:28:35,679
missing that they never know what

2280
01:28:39,350 --> 01:28:36,800
happened

2281
01:28:41,350 --> 01:28:39,360
because they never those or even to me

2282
01:28:44,310 --> 01:28:41,360
it's it's tragic enough to find out that

2283
01:28:46,070 --> 01:28:44,320
your child got you know uh

2284
01:28:47,990 --> 01:28:46,080
kidnapped and murdered but some people

2285
01:28:50,229 --> 01:28:48,000
the children just get kidnapped and they

2286
01:28:52,390 --> 01:28:50,239
never know if they're alive if they're

2287
01:28:53,990 --> 01:28:52,400
dead what happened to them who did it

2288
01:28:55,350 --> 01:28:54,000
and their killers never get brought to

2289
01:28:57,990 --> 01:28:55,360
justice

2290
01:29:00,709 --> 01:28:58,000
that's a huge tragedy to me

2291
01:29:03,030 --> 01:29:00,719
yeah i know that's awful and um

2292
01:29:04,950 --> 01:29:03,040
and i'm hoping now like there's there's

2293
01:29:07,750 --> 01:29:04,960
a lot more uh

2294
01:29:10,709 --> 01:29:07,760
there's a lot more unity going on in

2295
01:29:12,790 --> 01:29:10,719
these communities with a lot of the um

2296
01:29:15,350 --> 01:29:12,800
a lot of these situations

2297
01:29:16,470 --> 01:29:15,360
how do 30 women get killed nobody sees

2298
01:29:18,470 --> 01:29:16,480
anything

2299
01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:18,480
like there's got to be some interaction

2300
01:29:22,790 --> 01:29:20,560
there's got to be like uh that i'm a big

2301
01:29:24,709 --> 01:29:22,800
conspiracy person myself but

2302
01:29:26,310 --> 01:29:24,719
there's in in some of these situations i

2303
01:29:28,629 --> 01:29:26,320
don't see how these individuals are

2304
01:29:30,790 --> 01:29:28,639
working single-handedly and kind of

2305
01:29:32,229 --> 01:29:30,800
breaking down that system by recognizing

2306
01:29:34,550 --> 01:29:32,239
that and making sure that people are

2307
01:29:36,790 --> 01:29:34,560
held accountable in these situations are

2308
01:29:40,310 --> 01:29:36,800
going to be a huge um

2309
01:29:42,870 --> 01:29:40,320
turning point for the future for for

2310
01:29:44,950 --> 01:29:42,880
victims not just women men you know

2311
01:29:45,750 --> 01:29:44,960
gases victims dahmer's victims we're all

2312
01:29:47,189 --> 01:29:45,760
male

2313
01:29:49,110 --> 01:29:47,199
you know a lot of people don't realize

2314
01:29:51,430 --> 01:29:49,120
that it's not just women that are at

2315
01:29:54,149 --> 01:29:51,440
risk for these individuals like there's

2316
01:29:56,070 --> 01:29:54,159
a person born every day that a serial

2317
01:29:59,270 --> 01:29:56,080
killer would profile because you have

2318
01:30:00,790 --> 01:29:59,280
blue eyes because you're from spain like

2319
01:30:03,030 --> 01:30:00,800
there's people that obsess over the

2320
01:30:06,149 --> 01:30:03,040
craziest things yeah and there have

2321
01:30:09,510 --> 01:30:06,159
actually been cases where like the the

2322
01:30:11,350 --> 01:30:09,520
victim profile was like brunette girls

2323
01:30:13,030 --> 01:30:11,360
yeah of a certain age so the girls would

2324
01:30:14,709 --> 01:30:13,040
dye their hair black

2325
01:30:16,149 --> 01:30:14,719
because they were yeah i remember that

2326
01:30:18,830 --> 01:30:16,159
there was that there was the blonde

2327
01:30:21,830 --> 01:30:18,840
haired killer

2328
01:30:22,950 --> 01:30:21,840
um yeah women were going dark-haired and

2329
01:30:25,830 --> 01:30:22,960
things like that

2330
01:30:28,870 --> 01:30:25,840
creates hysteria for people you know um

2331
01:30:31,270 --> 01:30:28,880
but again that's just um profiling you

2332
01:30:32,790 --> 01:30:31,280
know getting down to the actual

2333
01:30:34,709 --> 01:30:32,800
personalities and getting more

2334
01:30:36,790 --> 01:30:34,719
information and

2335
01:30:39,110 --> 01:30:36,800
you know eventually it'll help us to

2336
01:30:41,590 --> 01:30:39,120
sink our teeth into things a lot faster

2337
01:30:43,669 --> 01:30:41,600
so hopefully less people will be

2338
01:30:44,550 --> 01:30:43,679
in jeopardy

2339
01:30:46,550 --> 01:30:44,560
wow

2340
01:30:48,149 --> 01:30:46,560
well i think i i want to keep you very

2341
01:30:50,390 --> 01:30:48,159
much longer i know that you're very very

2342
01:30:51,910 --> 01:30:50,400
busy i want to thank you for giving us

2343
01:30:54,229 --> 01:30:51,920
an update it's always interesting to

2344
01:30:56,229 --> 01:30:54,239
talk to you have so many cool uh

2345
01:30:57,750 --> 01:30:56,239
adventures and experiences that you

2346
01:30:59,350 --> 01:30:57,760
could share and i'm glad that you could

2347
01:31:01,350 --> 01:30:59,360
come and share them here

2348
01:31:03,189 --> 01:31:01,360
what's next for the movie roles you got

2349
01:31:05,910 --> 01:31:03,199
a few more do you have some new stuff

2350
01:31:08,229 --> 01:31:05,920
coming up you have the tv show you have

2351
01:31:10,390 --> 01:31:08,239
these other projects the ghost hunting

2352
01:31:12,950 --> 01:31:10,400
projects but is there no another is

2353
01:31:15,270 --> 01:31:12,960
there more horror films in your future

2354
01:31:17,430 --> 01:31:15,280
yes so i haven't been able to announce

2355
01:31:19,350 --> 01:31:17,440
just yet but yes i have a couple more

2356
01:31:21,430 --> 01:31:19,360
movie announcements um

2357
01:31:23,750 --> 01:31:21,440
i again want to do my homework like we

2358
01:31:25,830 --> 01:31:23,760
talked about before and make sure that

2359
01:31:28,229 --> 01:31:25,840
everything is the right fit for me as an

2360
01:31:30,790 --> 01:31:28,239
actress but i'm gonna go on with the

2361
01:31:32,790 --> 01:31:30,800
directing and go on with the creating um

2362
01:31:35,189 --> 01:31:32,800
you know i'd like to be in charge and

2363
01:31:38,390 --> 01:31:35,199
make sure that there is a level of

2364
01:31:40,709 --> 01:31:38,400
safety and respect on my sets personally

2365
01:31:43,110 --> 01:31:40,719
and that's i think better and and more

2366
01:31:45,510 --> 01:31:43,120
easily maintained if i am

2367
01:31:46,950 --> 01:31:45,520
going out to these places and dealing

2368
01:31:48,470 --> 01:31:46,960
with these people rather than putting

2369
01:31:50,709 --> 01:31:48,480
everybody in that

2370
01:31:52,550 --> 01:31:50,719
bubble you know um in the indie

2371
01:31:54,629 --> 01:31:52,560
community for weeks at a time where

2372
01:31:57,189 --> 01:31:54,639
we're on each other's backs so

2373
01:31:59,669 --> 01:31:57,199
hopefully it'll bring a lot more to um

2374
01:32:02,229 --> 01:31:59,679
you know to to the individuals as actors

2375
01:32:04,629 --> 01:32:02,239
to be able to find their best

2376
01:32:07,030 --> 01:32:04,639
and um and perform their best and i look

2377
01:32:09,590 --> 01:32:07,040
forward to traveling and in the meantime

2378
01:32:11,990 --> 01:32:09,600
again with the paranormal ride um

2379
01:32:14,870 --> 01:32:12,000
filming in between the traveling

2380
01:32:16,790 --> 01:32:14,880
do you know when when this

2381
01:32:18,390 --> 01:32:16,800
do you know when this uh house that eats

2382
01:32:20,790 --> 01:32:18,400
flesh is getting released and where it

2383
01:32:22,550 --> 01:32:20,800
will be or where people can catch it so

2384
01:32:26,550 --> 01:32:22,560
right now they're um they're filming the

2385
01:32:28,629 --> 01:32:26,560
anthology um because the and the uh the

2386
01:32:30,629 --> 01:32:28,639
first movie wound up being shorter so i

2387
01:32:32,709 --> 01:32:30,639
think he wanted josh wanted to deliver

2388
01:32:35,510 --> 01:32:32,719
the audience what they had originally

2389
01:32:37,270 --> 01:32:35,520
paid for so he's going to do an

2390
01:32:38,390 --> 01:32:37,280
anthology which two more movies are

2391
01:32:40,149 --> 01:32:38,400
being filmed

2392
01:32:41,830 --> 01:32:40,159
but i believe the expected release date

2393
01:32:44,709 --> 01:32:41,840
is 2022

2394
01:32:47,189 --> 01:32:44,719
without the month on the front of it so

2395
01:32:48,470 --> 01:32:47,199
yes we got it yeah

2396
01:32:49,510 --> 01:32:48,480
we gotta wait a little while but

2397
01:32:52,390 --> 01:32:49,520
everything

2398
01:32:54,950 --> 01:32:52,400
movie wise is uh is of course delayed

2399
01:32:58,550 --> 01:32:54,960
because of the current health situation

2400
01:33:02,149 --> 01:33:00,229
because that complicates everything

2401
01:33:03,910 --> 01:33:02,159
because right people have to be tested

2402
01:33:05,910 --> 01:33:03,920
masked you know

2403
01:33:07,430 --> 01:33:05,920
measures have to be taken and it's hard

2404
01:33:08,470 --> 01:33:07,440
because on a movie set there's so many

2405
01:33:09,270 --> 01:33:08,480
people

2406
01:33:12,790 --> 01:33:09,280
yeah

2407
01:33:14,390 --> 01:33:12,800
but you know what you see on screen is

2408
01:33:15,750 --> 01:33:14,400
just the actors and the actresses and

2409
01:33:17,110 --> 01:33:15,760
then there could be a hundred people

2410
01:33:19,270 --> 01:33:17,120
behind the scenes

2411
01:33:21,510 --> 01:33:19,280
doing all kinds of stuff prop people and

2412
01:33:23,030 --> 01:33:21,520
makeup people and hair people and yeah

2413
01:33:24,870 --> 01:33:23,040
just trying to death with masks on

2414
01:33:26,550 --> 01:33:24,880
because we can't have air because it

2415
01:33:29,030 --> 01:33:26,560
interferes with the audio so yeah like

2416
01:33:30,790 --> 01:33:29,040
people are really putting in the work

2417
01:33:32,310 --> 01:33:30,800
yeah yeah

2418
01:33:33,669 --> 01:33:32,320
well i can't thank you enough for doing

2419
01:33:34,950 --> 01:33:33,679
this i really appreciate it and i hope

2420
01:33:36,550 --> 01:33:34,960
that you will come back again and tell

2421
01:33:38,709 --> 01:33:36,560
us about your new adventures and maybe

2422
01:33:40,470 --> 01:33:38,719
not take so long this time yeah

2423
01:33:42,149 --> 01:33:40,480
definitely definitely hit me up the next

2424
01:33:44,790 --> 01:33:42,159
time that you're interested and you have

2425
01:33:46,470 --> 01:33:44,800
some free time i i love catching up and

2426
01:33:48,709 --> 01:33:46,480
it's been a pleasure i like catching up

2427
01:33:51,110 --> 01:33:48,719
on on facebook and socials too but this

2428
01:33:53,030 --> 01:33:51,120
is great yeah and like i said i'm

2429
01:33:55,830 --> 01:33:53,040
selfish i say why do it offline i can

2430
01:33:58,149 --> 01:33:55,840
take my audience with me and then yeah

2431
01:33:59,590 --> 01:33:58,159
they can all uh get caught up on your

2432
01:34:00,950 --> 01:33:59,600
adventures too

2433
01:34:02,470 --> 01:34:00,960
i love it

2434
01:34:03,830 --> 01:34:02,480
all right thank you very much i'm going

2435
01:34:06,310 --> 01:34:03,840
to do a quick wrap-up because there's

2436
01:34:07,990 --> 01:34:06,320
some dramarama going on in ufo land that

2437
01:34:09,430 --> 01:34:08,000
i got to talk about tonight so i don't

2438
01:34:11,110 --> 01:34:09,440
want to make you just sit there through

2439
01:34:12,310 --> 01:34:11,120
this and be like what is he talking

2440
01:34:13,189 --> 01:34:12,320
about

2441
01:34:15,110 --> 01:34:13,199
no

2442
01:34:16,550 --> 01:34:15,120
thank you so much for having me i

2443
01:34:17,510 --> 01:34:16,560
appreciate it so much and i can't wait

2444
01:34:19,270 --> 01:34:17,520
to come back

2445
01:34:20,870 --> 01:34:19,280
and i will put all your links i will put

2446
01:34:22,310 --> 01:34:20,880
all your links in the about section of

2447
01:34:24,550 --> 01:34:22,320
this they're not there right now because

2448
01:34:26,790 --> 01:34:24,560
i'm a terrible show host no i was doing

2449
01:34:29,189 --> 01:34:26,800
a guest spot that went long right before

2450
01:34:31,350 --> 01:34:29,199
this show so i did i i will put all your

2451
01:34:32,709 --> 01:34:31,360
links to your facebook and and

2452
01:34:34,070 --> 01:34:32,719
where and your youtube and where

2453
01:34:35,430 --> 01:34:34,080
everybody can find you right after the

2454
01:34:37,430 --> 01:34:35,440
show i promise

2455
01:34:38,950 --> 01:34:37,440
okay thank you so much and thank you for

2456
01:34:40,470 --> 01:34:38,960
having me again you have a great night

2457
01:34:42,229 --> 01:34:40,480
thanks rachel

2458
01:34:44,390 --> 01:34:42,239
it's always a pleasure friends for me to

2459
01:34:46,070 --> 01:34:44,400
talk to rachel because she's just such

2460
01:34:48,629 --> 01:34:46,080
an interesting lady into so many

2461
01:34:49,830 --> 01:34:48,639
interesting things that i have a similar

2462
01:34:51,830 --> 01:34:49,840
interest in

2463
01:34:53,750 --> 01:34:51,840
and interestingly

2464
01:34:56,550 --> 01:34:53,760
i told you i'm kind of weak on the ghost

2465
01:34:59,109 --> 01:34:56,560
hunting stuff and on the demonology i

2466
01:35:00,950 --> 01:34:59,119
have an interest in it but i'm not

2467
01:35:03,189 --> 01:35:00,960
an expert on these things and i would

2468
01:35:04,550 --> 01:35:03,199
prefer to rely on somebody like her who

2469
01:35:06,629 --> 01:35:04,560
has been

2470
01:35:08,950 --> 01:35:06,639
an expert on these things and continues

2471
01:35:10,950 --> 01:35:08,960
to be and it's nice to see her going

2472
01:35:12,950 --> 01:35:10,960
forward with her dream i remember her

2473
01:35:14,629 --> 01:35:12,960
telling me that one of her dreams was to

2474
01:35:17,270 --> 01:35:14,639
be an actress

2475
01:35:19,270 --> 01:35:17,280
and i said do it girl

2476
01:35:20,229 --> 01:35:19,280
and she did and i'm proud of her for

2477
01:35:22,550 --> 01:35:20,239
that

2478
01:35:24,550 --> 01:35:22,560
so uh yeah and we'll take some comments

2479
01:35:27,109 --> 01:35:24,560
and questions from a live chat but i

2480
01:35:29,669 --> 01:35:27,119
definitely uh we gotta talk about a few

2481
01:35:32,470 --> 01:35:29,679
things

2482
01:35:33,830 --> 01:35:32,480
i'm going to share my twitter here

2483
01:35:38,550 --> 01:35:33,840
because there are some interesting

2484
01:35:43,189 --> 01:35:41,189
and listen i'm not going to be

2485
01:35:45,990 --> 01:35:43,199
i'm not gonna i'm gonna try to choose my

2486
01:35:47,910 --> 01:35:46,000
words carefully

2487
01:35:50,229 --> 01:35:47,920
i don't want to be sanctimonious is that

2488
01:35:51,270 --> 01:35:50,239
the right word here and say i told you

2489
01:35:53,430 --> 01:35:51,280
so

2490
01:35:55,830 --> 01:35:53,440
but one of the possibilities that i

2491
01:35:56,790 --> 01:35:55,840
mentioned about anjali and her story

2492
01:35:58,790 --> 01:35:56,800
about

2493
01:36:00,390 --> 01:35:58,800
meeting extraterrestrials in an alien

2494
01:36:03,030 --> 01:36:00,400
base and having a friend that dug a

2495
01:36:03,910 --> 01:36:03,040
tunnel into an alien base and

2496
01:36:06,229 --> 01:36:03,920
um

2497
01:36:07,830 --> 01:36:06,239
one of the possibilities i said for this

2498
01:36:10,390 --> 01:36:07,840
outcome she had promised that she was

2499
01:36:11,590 --> 01:36:10,400
going to do an expedition by the end of

2500
01:36:14,070 --> 01:36:11,600
the year

2501
01:36:16,390 --> 01:36:14,080
and get to all the proof take scientists

2502
01:36:18,229 --> 01:36:16,400
get films get videos get

2503
01:36:19,189 --> 01:36:18,239
you know sensor

2504
01:36:21,030 --> 01:36:19,199
data

2505
01:36:22,629 --> 01:36:21,040
i don't know what kind of proof that you

2506
01:36:24,790 --> 01:36:22,639
can get if you're standing in front of

2507
01:36:28,470 --> 01:36:24,800
an extraterrestrial

2508
01:36:30,870 --> 01:36:28,480
that is incorporal and not imagined or

2509
01:36:32,709 --> 01:36:30,880
in your own mind she claims that these

2510
01:36:34,870 --> 01:36:32,719
beings were

2511
01:36:36,629 --> 01:36:34,880
living breathing beings

2512
01:36:39,030 --> 01:36:36,639
so she had promised that she was going

2513
01:36:40,709 --> 01:36:39,040
to do this expedition

2514
01:36:42,870 --> 01:36:40,719
with members of the media and with

2515
01:36:44,629 --> 01:36:42,880
scientists and with paranormal

2516
01:36:46,709 --> 01:36:44,639
investigators and

2517
01:36:49,270 --> 01:36:46,719
ufo experts and you know she was going

2518
01:36:50,790 --> 01:36:49,280
to form this expedition team and going

2519
01:36:53,109 --> 01:36:50,800
back into the mountain and talked to

2520
01:36:54,470 --> 01:36:53,119
those aliens again but this time bring

2521
01:36:57,109 --> 01:36:54,480
us all the proof

2522
01:36:59,430 --> 01:36:57,119
and one of the possibilities that i said

2523
01:37:02,229 --> 01:36:59,440
how this story may end is what i call

2524
01:37:04,070 --> 01:37:02,239
kick the can which is to

2525
01:37:05,990 --> 01:37:04,080
say well we can't do it for one reason

2526
01:37:07,830 --> 01:37:06,000
or another the

2527
01:37:09,109 --> 01:37:07,840
the cave collapsed

2528
01:37:11,910 --> 01:37:09,119
the

2529
01:37:14,790 --> 01:37:11,920
go back

2530
01:37:16,550 --> 01:37:14,800
into his mountain or you know whatever

2531
01:37:18,390 --> 01:37:16,560
but generally one of the big

2532
01:37:20,550 --> 01:37:18,400
possibilities is that i first saw that

2533
01:37:22,709 --> 01:37:20,560
there would be a kicking of the can

2534
01:37:23,990 --> 01:37:22,719
that is a delay

2535
01:37:25,830 --> 01:37:24,000
um

2536
01:37:27,990 --> 01:37:25,840
honestly i was surprised that she gave a

2537
01:37:30,709 --> 01:37:28,000
hard date because most of these people

2538
01:37:32,790 --> 01:37:30,719
won't give a hard date and she did

2539
01:37:35,430 --> 01:37:32,800
but one of my concerns was that kicking

2540
01:37:36,229 --> 01:37:35,440
the can or delay

2541
01:37:43,109 --> 01:37:36,239
or

2542
01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:43,119
providing this proof and doing this

2543
01:37:47,510 --> 01:37:44,800
expedition

2544
01:37:50,149 --> 01:37:47,520
earlier today i was on a live broadcast

2545
01:37:53,270 --> 01:37:50,159
at the last minute it wasn't planned

2546
01:37:56,310 --> 01:37:53,280
with aliengirl111 who you might remember

2547
01:37:57,270 --> 01:37:56,320
as being a previous guest here

2548
01:38:00,390 --> 01:37:57,280
and

2549
01:38:02,229 --> 01:38:00,400
uh alien addict was the person she was

2550
01:38:04,229 --> 01:38:02,239
interviewing but then she invited me on

2551
01:38:07,030 --> 01:38:04,239
and i didn't know this when i went on

2552
01:38:08,790 --> 01:38:07,040
but then anjali jumped on

2553
01:38:11,030 --> 01:38:08,800
and so she was kind of asked for an

2554
01:38:12,709 --> 01:38:11,040
update about what is going on

2555
01:38:14,310 --> 01:38:12,719
first saying that this wasn't the right

2556
01:38:16,310 --> 01:38:14,320
platform for it

2557
01:38:17,350 --> 01:38:16,320
and all of these different things and

2558
01:38:18,709 --> 01:38:17,360
then

2559
01:38:20,550 --> 01:38:18,719
um

2560
01:38:22,070 --> 01:38:20,560
telling us essentially that she went

2561
01:38:24,870 --> 01:38:22,080
back to the mountain

2562
01:38:26,790 --> 01:38:24,880
in the past few weeks and wayne the

2563
01:38:29,189 --> 01:38:26,800
person who owns the mountain

2564
01:38:30,790 --> 01:38:29,199
would not give her permission to go back

2565
01:38:33,030 --> 01:38:30,800
on his property

2566
01:38:35,990 --> 01:38:33,040
and also will not give her permission to

2567
01:38:38,950 --> 01:38:36,000
go forward with her plans for scientific

2568
01:38:41,270 --> 01:38:38,960
expedition into the mountain to

2569
01:38:44,149 --> 01:38:41,280
get the proof of the aliens

2570
01:38:45,669 --> 01:38:44,159
then here we have a tweet from her that

2571
01:38:47,669 --> 01:38:45,679
i believe she must have tweeted right

2572
01:38:49,590 --> 01:38:47,679
after the broadcast that says with great

2573
01:38:52,390 --> 01:38:49,600
respect the expedition to the mountain

2574
01:38:55,350 --> 01:38:52,400
is postponed wayne has now said no one

2575
01:38:57,669 --> 01:38:55,360
may enter his property including myself

2576
01:38:59,189 --> 01:38:57,679
my intentions are to press forward i'll

2577
01:39:01,270 --> 01:38:59,199
gather the team

2578
01:39:03,750 --> 01:39:01,280
they'll be briefed and together we will

2579
01:39:07,270 --> 01:39:03,760
determine a plan of action

2580
01:39:10,950 --> 01:39:10,070
and boy what a twitter thread this one

2581
01:39:17,270 --> 01:39:10,960
is

2582
01:39:19,430 --> 01:39:17,280
you know saying i'm not

2583
01:39:20,950 --> 01:39:19,440
very surprised that this is one of the

2584
01:39:22,229 --> 01:39:20,960
outcomes this is one of the outcomes

2585
01:39:24,070 --> 01:39:22,239
that i mentioned

2586
01:39:25,510 --> 01:39:24,080
i thought was a strong possibility which

2587
01:39:26,709 --> 01:39:25,520
is a delay

2588
01:39:29,189 --> 01:39:26,719
to say

2589
01:39:29,990 --> 01:39:29,199
uh we for one reason or another we can't

2590
01:39:31,430 --> 01:39:30,000
go

2591
01:39:33,030 --> 01:39:31,440
now

2592
01:39:34,629 --> 01:39:33,040
i would like to mention that there has

2593
01:39:37,109 --> 01:39:34,639
been other

2594
01:39:40,709 --> 01:39:37,119
very bitter angry little people that

2595
01:39:43,590 --> 01:39:40,719
have been putting words into my mouth um

2596
01:39:46,470 --> 01:39:43,600
for quite some time saying that i said i

2597
01:39:48,310 --> 01:39:46,480
believe her that those aliens are real

2598
01:39:50,229 --> 01:39:48,320
that she's gonna bring us the proof or

2599
01:39:52,310 --> 01:39:50,239
that i said well

2600
01:39:54,870 --> 01:39:52,320
i checked into her military and that's

2601
01:39:56,470 --> 01:39:54,880
real i checked into her dia background

2602
01:39:58,390 --> 01:39:56,480
and that's real i checked into her

2603
01:39:59,510 --> 01:39:58,400
employment history and her education and

2604
01:40:01,990 --> 01:39:59,520
that's real

2605
01:40:03,910 --> 01:40:02,000
so the aliens must be real too

2606
01:40:04,790 --> 01:40:03,920
i never said any of that

2607
01:40:07,430 --> 01:40:04,800
and

2608
01:40:10,310 --> 01:40:07,440
did i say that i'd be willing to go

2609
01:40:12,870 --> 01:40:10,320
to this uh on this expedition sure and

2610
01:40:15,830 --> 01:40:12,880
here we have look jeremy uh for alien

2611
01:40:18,149 --> 01:40:15,840
scientist was on the panel too

2612
01:40:20,149 --> 01:40:18,159
an alien scientist said i offered to

2613
01:40:22,550 --> 01:40:20,159
join her team tonight

2614
01:40:24,310 --> 01:40:22,560
he's willing to go i'm willing to go

2615
01:40:25,910 --> 01:40:24,320
doesn't mean i believe there's aliens

2616
01:40:28,790 --> 01:40:25,920
there but it does believe

2617
01:40:30,709 --> 01:40:28,800
it does mean that both jeremy and i

2618
01:40:32,550 --> 01:40:30,719
are interested enough in what she's

2619
01:40:34,870 --> 01:40:32,560
saying and the story that we'd be

2620
01:40:37,350 --> 01:40:34,880
willing to go there and get to the

2621
01:40:38,550 --> 01:40:37,360
bottom of the mystery

2622
01:40:40,790 --> 01:40:38,560
but again

2623
01:40:43,510 --> 01:40:40,800
people love to put words in my mouth and

2624
01:40:45,830 --> 01:40:43,520
and honestly these people putting words

2625
01:40:47,830 --> 01:40:45,840
in my mouth are doing so in an attempt

2626
01:40:49,590 --> 01:40:47,840
to turn people against me

2627
01:40:51,430 --> 01:40:49,600
and if you're going to do that there's

2628
01:40:52,870 --> 01:40:51,440
nothing i can do there's just nothing i

2629
01:40:53,990 --> 01:40:52,880
can do you can turn people against me

2630
01:40:56,390 --> 01:40:54,000
all you like

2631
01:40:58,470 --> 01:40:56,400
uh or attempt to

2632
01:40:59,990 --> 01:40:58,480
most people may agree with me that it's

2633
01:41:01,910 --> 01:41:00,000
an interesting enough story that if

2634
01:41:04,390 --> 01:41:01,920
given the opportunity to go see that

2635
01:41:07,030 --> 01:41:04,400
mountain and climb in that tunnel and

2636
01:41:09,910 --> 01:41:07,040
meet those aliens i'ma take it i'ma take

2637
01:41:12,149 --> 01:41:09,920
it because i love a great mystery and i

2638
01:41:15,669 --> 01:41:12,159
would love to get to the bottom of the

2639
01:41:19,910 --> 01:41:17,510
spooky is here and says you mean the

2640
01:41:21,910 --> 01:41:19,920
most predictable outcome happened i'm so

2641
01:41:23,669 --> 01:41:21,920
surprised yes and there was also some

2642
01:41:26,149 --> 01:41:23,679
mention that wayne

2643
01:41:30,229 --> 01:41:26,159
uh has taken a turn for the worse

2644
01:41:35,030 --> 01:41:32,629
you know that made me think that that

2645
01:41:37,510 --> 01:41:35,040
that this may end with well wayne died

2646
01:41:38,950 --> 01:41:37,520
so nobody's allowed on the mountain

2647
01:41:40,149 --> 01:41:38,960
one way or the other

2648
01:41:42,470 --> 01:41:40,159
um

2649
01:41:43,750 --> 01:41:42,480
i felt like this hard

2650
01:41:45,510 --> 01:41:43,760
limit

2651
01:41:47,189 --> 01:41:45,520
um to like

2652
01:41:48,390 --> 01:41:47,199
okay we'll give you the proof by the end

2653
01:41:50,149 --> 01:41:48,400
of the year

2654
01:41:52,390 --> 01:41:50,159
i kind of thought that that wasn't going

2655
01:41:54,870 --> 01:41:52,400
to happen i mentioned some possibilities

2656
01:41:57,189 --> 01:41:54,880
that i thought were a distinct and real

2657
01:42:00,550 --> 01:41:57,199
possibility about

2658
01:42:01,590 --> 01:42:00,560
how i felt this story may end it seems

2659
01:42:04,470 --> 01:42:01,600
like

2660
01:42:07,030 --> 01:42:04,480
um one of my predicted outcomes has

2661
01:42:09,030 --> 01:42:07,040
happened now that we're gonna delay

2662
01:42:11,430 --> 01:42:09,040
things and kick the can and make excuses

2663
01:42:13,510 --> 01:42:11,440
for why we can't go to the mountain and

2664
01:42:16,550 --> 01:42:13,520
see those aliens and see the proof of

2665
01:42:22,550 --> 01:42:18,950
now along with my again i i don't want

2666
01:42:25,030 --> 01:42:22,560
to appear to be like you know uh

2667
01:42:27,510 --> 01:42:25,040
i'm not here saying you know i told you

2668
01:42:29,510 --> 01:42:27,520
so because i just discussed this as one

2669
01:42:31,990 --> 01:42:29,520
possibility

2670
01:42:33,030 --> 01:42:32,000
but the more that i think about anjali's

2671
01:42:38,149 --> 01:42:33,040
story

2672
01:42:39,750 --> 01:42:38,159
she corrected somebody today and i'm

2673
01:42:41,910 --> 01:42:39,760
gonna have to go back to the tape and

2674
01:42:44,550 --> 01:42:41,920
hear exactly how she prefers her name to

2675
01:42:46,470 --> 01:42:44,560
be said and say it the way she prefers

2676
01:42:48,550 --> 01:42:46,480
because names are important and i

2677
01:42:50,629 --> 01:42:48,560
shouldn't mispronounce her name so if i

2678
01:42:52,390 --> 01:42:50,639
did i apologize anyway

2679
01:42:53,830 --> 01:42:52,400
i'm gonna uh

2680
01:42:56,629 --> 01:42:53,840
you know

2681
01:42:58,070 --> 01:42:56,639
try to do better with that but

2682
01:43:00,310 --> 01:42:58,080
the the other thing that i will say is

2683
01:43:05,830 --> 01:43:00,320
that i'm

2684
01:43:07,910 --> 01:43:05,840
if i had to choose one

2685
01:43:09,590 --> 01:43:07,920
possibility

2686
01:43:12,229 --> 01:43:09,600
for what may have been the cause of her

2687
01:43:15,109 --> 01:43:12,239
experience it would be dmt whether a

2688
01:43:16,229 --> 01:43:15,119
spontaneous release of dmt that occurred

2689
01:43:17,750 --> 01:43:16,239
naturally

2690
01:43:20,629 --> 01:43:17,760
or

2691
01:43:23,910 --> 01:43:20,639
ingested dmt whether knowingly ingesting

2692
01:43:26,790 --> 01:43:23,920
dmt or unknowingly ingesting dmt or some

2693
01:43:29,030 --> 01:43:26,800
other hallucinogen may have

2694
01:43:33,189 --> 01:43:29,040
given her this

2695
01:43:38,390 --> 01:43:33,199
what we can only say is a very uh

2696
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:40,950
we

2697
01:43:45,430 --> 01:43:44,229
can say a lot of things about her but

2698
01:43:51,430 --> 01:43:45,440
what we

2699
01:43:54,390 --> 01:43:52,550
very

2700
01:43:58,070 --> 01:43:54,400
passionate about her belief that her

2701
01:44:02,310 --> 01:43:58,080
experience was was real right

2702
01:44:08,629 --> 01:44:04,310
we have people putting spam links in the

2703
01:44:12,709 --> 01:44:10,709
yes so

2704
01:44:15,350 --> 01:44:12,719
the other theory that i have really is

2705
01:44:17,830 --> 01:44:15,360
that she had some form of hallucinogenic

2706
01:44:19,030 --> 01:44:17,840
experience which produced

2707
01:44:21,270 --> 01:44:19,040
this

2708
01:44:22,390 --> 01:44:21,280
experience with her

2709
01:44:26,629 --> 01:44:22,400
that

2710
01:44:29,350 --> 01:44:26,639
you know either seeing aliens or higher

2711
01:44:31,590 --> 01:44:29,360
beings or gray aliens and

2712
01:44:35,910 --> 01:44:31,600
tall white aliens and

2713
01:44:41,030 --> 01:44:38,229
her description of her experience was

2714
01:44:45,590 --> 01:44:43,109
it just reminded me so much of my own

2715
01:44:48,470 --> 01:44:45,600
experience with dmt that i went

2716
01:44:51,030 --> 01:44:48,480
she had a dmt trip now this is my

2717
01:44:53,910 --> 01:44:51,040
opinion and my speculation

2718
01:44:56,229 --> 01:44:53,920
and you know i'm not saying this to

2719
01:44:59,430 --> 01:44:56,239
disparage her or to

2720
01:45:02,629 --> 01:44:59,440
make light of what she feels is the most

2721
01:45:04,470 --> 01:45:02,639
profound experience of her life you know

2722
01:45:06,390 --> 01:45:04,480
i don't want to

2723
01:45:09,430 --> 01:45:06,400
belittle her

2724
01:45:11,030 --> 01:45:09,440
for possibly mistaking a hallucinogenic

2725
01:45:12,070 --> 01:45:11,040
trip

2726
01:45:13,990 --> 01:45:12,080
with

2727
01:45:15,430 --> 01:45:14,000
meeting

2728
01:45:16,870 --> 01:45:15,440
aliens

2729
01:45:18,950 --> 01:45:16,880
you know

2730
01:45:21,270 --> 01:45:18,960
in the real world

2731
01:45:25,270 --> 01:45:21,280
now lynette411 is here and so she was

2732
01:45:26,149 --> 01:45:25,280
very credible credible but i agree dmt

2733
01:45:29,030 --> 01:45:26,159
yeah

2734
01:45:32,870 --> 01:45:29,040
it could be uh and rebecca turner says

2735
01:45:34,790 --> 01:45:32,880
uh oh of course it was just

2736
01:45:36,870 --> 01:45:34,800
it was i just thought she'd milk it a

2737
01:45:38,470 --> 01:45:36,880
little longer is all

2738
01:45:46,310 --> 01:45:38,480
yeah

2739
01:45:49,030 --> 01:45:47,430
you know

2740
01:45:50,870 --> 01:45:49,040
first of all

2741
01:45:52,950 --> 01:45:50,880
speaking to her in person a few times

2742
01:45:54,470 --> 01:45:52,960
has humanized her to me and i i've said

2743
01:45:56,629 --> 01:45:54,480
it before i'll say it again i'm i'm

2744
01:45:59,430 --> 01:45:56,639
worried about her mental

2745
01:46:02,149 --> 01:45:59,440
state and and um that sort of this

2746
01:46:04,229 --> 01:46:02,159
backlash because certainly now

2747
01:46:06,149 --> 01:46:04,239
she's going to get hammered on twitter

2748
01:46:08,629 --> 01:46:06,159
she's going to get hammered on reddit

2749
01:46:09,990 --> 01:46:08,639
she's going to get hammered everywhere

2750
01:46:12,310 --> 01:46:10,000
on the internet

2751
01:46:13,430 --> 01:46:12,320
for promising this proof and now making

2752
01:46:15,030 --> 01:46:13,440
excuses

2753
01:46:19,109 --> 01:46:15,040
now

2754
01:46:21,590 --> 01:46:19,119
one can believe that

2755
01:46:24,390 --> 01:46:21,600
her making excuses and never providing

2756
01:46:26,950 --> 01:46:24,400
the proof was always going to happen

2757
01:46:28,870 --> 01:46:26,960
or one can believe her that she went

2758
01:46:30,310 --> 01:46:28,880
back to this wayne person tried to get

2759
01:46:34,550 --> 01:46:30,320
back to the mountain

2760
01:46:35,510 --> 01:46:34,560
and because of the intention or whatever

2761
01:46:37,109 --> 01:46:35,520
she

2762
01:46:42,390 --> 01:46:37,119
was unable

2763
01:46:43,270 --> 01:46:42,400
back onto the mountain to get the proof

2764
01:46:46,390 --> 01:46:43,280
or

2765
01:46:48,310 --> 01:46:46,400
allow her to do this expedition into the

2766
01:46:49,750 --> 01:46:48,320
mountain and the tunnel to get the

2767
01:46:51,590 --> 01:46:49,760
description

2768
01:46:53,109 --> 01:46:51,600
uh

2769
01:46:54,870 --> 01:46:53,119
yeah alien scientist says her

2770
01:46:56,070 --> 01:46:54,880
description of walking through the cave

2771
01:46:58,709 --> 01:46:56,080
using the cell phone to see her

2772
01:46:59,590 --> 01:46:58,719
footsteps was interesting i don't know

2773
01:47:01,189 --> 01:46:59,600
um

2774
01:47:02,629 --> 01:47:01,199
yeah and you should check out her

2775
01:47:04,149 --> 01:47:02,639
original

2776
01:47:05,590 --> 01:47:04,159
um

2777
01:47:08,390 --> 01:47:05,600
press conference where she tells parts

2778
01:47:10,950 --> 01:47:08,400
of the story alien scientist then

2779
01:47:13,430 --> 01:47:10,960
another shows did a interview before me

2780
01:47:18,870 --> 01:47:13,440
and then there's my interview with her

2781
01:47:22,390 --> 01:47:20,629
cosmic neighbor says i think she did

2782
01:47:24,950 --> 01:47:22,400
this now before a lot more pressure

2783
01:47:27,030 --> 01:47:24,960
built up as the year comes to a close

2784
01:47:27,990 --> 01:47:27,040
figured get it out of the way now could

2785
01:47:29,910 --> 01:47:28,000
be

2786
01:47:32,390 --> 01:47:29,920
you know it's kind of like ripping a

2787
01:47:35,510 --> 01:47:32,400
band-aid off you got to do it quick

2788
01:47:38,950 --> 01:47:37,189
and let's see

2789
01:47:40,310 --> 01:47:38,960
though face moretz says sometimes i

2790
01:47:42,149 --> 01:47:40,320
think those who are affiliated with the

2791
01:47:44,229 --> 01:47:42,159
government and bring out alien stories

2792
01:47:45,109 --> 01:47:44,239
are designed to lead people in circles

2793
01:47:47,669 --> 01:47:45,119
um

2794
01:47:49,910 --> 01:47:47,679
i could believe i could believe that the

2795
01:47:53,109 --> 01:47:49,920
success says alien addict totally had

2796
01:47:54,229 --> 01:47:53,119
her on her heels i agree with that too

2797
01:47:56,709 --> 01:47:54,239
uh

2798
01:47:58,629 --> 01:47:56,719
oh i didn't i left before goofon got

2799
01:48:00,149 --> 01:47:58,639
there goofon called out angelie for her

2800
01:48:03,750 --> 01:48:00,159
bs

2801
01:48:05,910 --> 01:48:03,760
and listen i'm gonna ask uh amy from

2802
01:48:08,390 --> 01:48:05,920
alien girl if i have her permission to

2803
01:48:11,030 --> 01:48:08,400
play that portion of the video

2804
01:48:12,629 --> 01:48:11,040
that just happened on her live show

2805
01:48:14,790 --> 01:48:12,639
earlier tonight if we have her

2806
01:48:16,629 --> 01:48:14,800
permission to do that tomorrow and we

2807
01:48:18,870 --> 01:48:16,639
will talk in more detail and i think

2808
01:48:21,350 --> 01:48:18,880
maybe i'll do a panel all about

2809
01:48:23,189 --> 01:48:21,360
angelique people want to hear about it

2810
01:48:25,430 --> 01:48:23,199
um i'm interested in other people's

2811
01:48:26,709 --> 01:48:25,440
opinions of

2812
01:48:29,030 --> 01:48:26,719
her story

2813
01:48:31,590 --> 01:48:29,040
of her

2814
01:48:33,430 --> 01:48:31,600
experience of these new excuses being

2815
01:48:34,950 --> 01:48:33,440
made for why she won't provide the proof

2816
01:48:35,910 --> 01:48:34,960
that she won't

2817
01:48:39,750 --> 01:48:35,920
um

2818
01:48:42,390 --> 01:48:41,270
you know what what do people think of

2819
01:48:44,830 --> 01:48:42,400
her new

2820
01:48:46,709 --> 01:48:44,840
excuses for why

2821
01:48:49,109 --> 01:48:46,719
um

2822
01:48:51,669 --> 01:48:49,119
why she can't provide the proof

2823
01:48:54,310 --> 01:48:51,679
you know i'm on the fence

2824
01:48:56,390 --> 01:48:54,320
i'm not sure

2825
01:48:57,990 --> 01:48:56,400
and i see ufo watchdog on twitter saying

2826
01:49:00,709 --> 01:48:58,000
how many times have we been promised

2827
01:49:02,550 --> 01:49:00,719
aliens countless times how many have

2828
01:49:05,270 --> 01:49:02,560
actually delivered and it's

2829
01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:05,280
he's got a picture of uh the count from

2830
01:49:12,470 --> 01:49:08,480
sesame street going zero

2831
01:49:16,229 --> 01:49:15,109
yeah it's unfortunate you know but this

2832
01:49:17,910 --> 01:49:16,239
is kind of

2833
01:49:22,070 --> 01:49:17,920
it's disappointing to me a little bit

2834
01:49:28,950 --> 01:49:22,080
but it i expected i expected this

2835
01:49:35,750 --> 01:49:31,830
put the user in timeout again

2836
01:49:37,430 --> 01:49:35,760
we've got uh spammers in the live chat

2837
01:49:40,310 --> 01:49:37,440
right

2838
01:49:43,109 --> 01:49:40,320
and friends i am going to check in with

2839
01:49:46,070 --> 01:49:43,119
uh

2840
01:49:47,990 --> 01:49:46,080
i apologize if i missed them very busy

2841
01:49:49,669 --> 01:49:48,000
kind of show tonight if there is any

2842
01:49:51,189 --> 01:49:49,679
super chats i did not read them we're

2843
01:49:52,470 --> 01:49:51,199
going to attempt to read them now if

2844
01:49:54,229 --> 01:49:52,480
there is any

2845
01:49:56,950 --> 01:49:54,239
otherwise friends

2846
01:49:58,310 --> 01:49:56,960
if you have any money to throw at me

2847
01:50:00,550 --> 01:49:58,320
please do it

2848
01:50:03,430 --> 01:50:00,560
quickly because we are going to be

2849
01:50:06,149 --> 01:50:03,440
wrapping things up here shortly

2850
01:50:09,030 --> 01:50:07,189
let's see

2851
01:50:10,629 --> 01:50:09,040
so no super chats tonight so we didn't

2852
01:50:12,709 --> 01:50:10,639
miss anything i'm going to check in with

2853
01:50:14,950 --> 01:50:12,719
the paypal

2854
01:50:16,790 --> 01:50:14,960
just a reminder that there's a few ways

2855
01:50:19,350 --> 01:50:16,800
to support us there's paypal donate

2856
01:50:20,390 --> 01:50:19,360
button in the about section of our video

2857
01:50:21,430 --> 01:50:20,400
here

2858
01:50:22,830 --> 01:50:21,440
and

2859
01:50:25,669 --> 01:50:22,840
also

2860
01:50:27,189 --> 01:50:25,679
um you can sign up for my patreon for as

2861
01:50:29,350 --> 01:50:27,199
little as a dollar a month or there's

2862
01:50:31,109 --> 01:50:29,360
that money button down there

2863
01:50:32,950 --> 01:50:31,119
uh you just push the money button and

2864
01:50:36,070 --> 01:50:32,960
how much you want to give us

2865
01:50:40,229 --> 01:50:38,149
youtube does the rest and that will

2866
01:50:43,990 --> 01:50:40,239
throw a few bucks in her hat otherwise

2867
01:50:49,910 --> 01:50:47,109
lynette 411 says i believe she believes

2868
01:50:51,750 --> 01:50:49,920
yeah i believe that as well and that

2869
01:50:53,350 --> 01:50:51,760
um i believe that she truly believes

2870
01:50:55,669 --> 01:50:53,360
that what happened to her

2871
01:50:57,910 --> 01:50:55,679
is a real genuine experience spooky says

2872
01:50:58,950 --> 01:50:57,920
everything about her story screams my

2873
01:51:01,189 --> 01:50:58,960
lab

2874
01:51:04,870 --> 01:51:01,199
very well could be

2875
01:51:06,870 --> 01:51:04,880
spooky says not aliens yeah

2876
01:51:09,510 --> 01:51:06,880
the sixth sense says her excuse was only

2877
01:51:11,270 --> 01:51:09,520
a matter of time there is no way

2878
01:51:15,750 --> 01:51:11,280
should

2879
01:51:20,950 --> 01:51:17,510
though we face moretz says i'm inclined

2880
01:51:22,229 --> 01:51:20,960
to agree with you spooky as am i you you

2881
01:51:23,270 --> 01:51:22,239
never know

2882
01:51:26,310 --> 01:51:23,280
right

2883
01:51:29,030 --> 01:51:26,320
and this is a short feeling possibility

2884
01:51:32,709 --> 01:51:31,270
blue 570 says i have a feeling if they

2885
01:51:33,910 --> 01:51:32,719
wanted her to introduce them to the

2886
01:51:35,510 --> 01:51:33,920
world

2887
01:51:40,550 --> 01:51:35,520
then that guy would not be able to

2888
01:51:45,189 --> 01:51:43,430
and i'm anxious to go see what uh rich

2889
01:51:48,310 --> 01:51:45,199
from goofon said because i'm sure he was

2890
01:51:51,669 --> 01:51:48,320
a little less polite than i or or even

2891
01:51:53,510 --> 01:51:51,679
germany verizon scientist was

2892
01:51:55,750 --> 01:51:53,520
but alienatic sure hit her with a few

2893
01:51:57,430 --> 01:51:55,760
good questions and we got her to we also

2894
01:52:00,070 --> 01:51:57,440
got her to

2895
01:52:01,750 --> 01:52:00,080
clarify her position on dmt which i

2896
01:52:03,910 --> 01:52:01,760
don't know what i feel about because

2897
01:52:05,750 --> 01:52:03,920
there's screenshots of her saying she's

2898
01:52:07,910 --> 01:52:05,760
talked to the aliens on mushrooms and

2899
01:52:10,310 --> 01:52:07,920
dmt and this and that and then there's

2900
01:52:13,109 --> 01:52:10,320
other screenshots of her saying i've

2901
01:52:15,350 --> 01:52:13,119
never done any hallucinogenic drugs and

2902
01:52:17,910 --> 01:52:15,360
on this interview earlier she said i've

2903
01:52:19,990 --> 01:52:17,920
never done any hallucinogenic drugs we

2904
01:52:21,750 --> 01:52:20,000
asked her to clarify that

2905
01:52:23,270 --> 01:52:21,760
now there's a television producer ryan

2906
01:52:25,510 --> 01:52:23,280
some of you may remember from the travis

2907
01:52:27,669 --> 01:52:25,520
walton story he claims that he's got

2908
01:52:28,870 --> 01:52:27,679
drone footage of the area that he spoke

2909
01:52:31,430 --> 01:52:28,880
with wayne

2910
01:52:32,229 --> 01:52:31,440
and he's got a big story that's coming

2911
01:52:35,669 --> 01:52:32,239
um

2912
01:52:38,149 --> 01:52:37,030
and my friends you're gonna have to

2913
01:52:41,189 --> 01:52:38,159
forgive me

2914
01:52:44,229 --> 01:52:41,199
i've got an awful cold and a sore throat

2915
01:52:45,669 --> 01:52:44,239
but i really can't complain because it's

2916
01:52:46,470 --> 01:52:45,679
not covered

2917
01:52:48,950 --> 01:52:46,480
and

2918
01:52:51,350 --> 01:52:48,960
i haven't been sick at all i haven't had

2919
01:52:53,189 --> 01:52:51,360
as much as a scratchy throat in two

2920
01:52:56,550 --> 01:52:53,199
years

2921
01:52:58,470 --> 01:52:56,560
or however long since march when this

2922
01:53:00,390 --> 01:52:58,480
lockdowns and the current health

2923
01:53:00,710 --> 01:53:00,400
situation started

2924
01:53:02,709 --> 01:53:00,720
um

2925
01:53:04,149 --> 01:53:02,719
[Music]

2926
01:53:06,390 --> 01:53:04,159
spooky says i want to know about the

2927
01:53:08,070 --> 01:53:06,400
military boots on the higher beings yeah

2928
01:53:09,990 --> 01:53:08,080
there's some weird

2929
01:53:12,310 --> 01:53:10,000
she uh

2930
01:53:15,189 --> 01:53:12,320
there was she told the story about them

2931
01:53:16,950 --> 01:53:15,199
having real big thick military boots and

2932
01:53:19,109 --> 01:53:16,960
outfits that look like a cross between a

2933
01:53:21,910 --> 01:53:19,119
wetsuit and a military

2934
01:53:24,390 --> 01:53:21,920
uniform so there's that new details

2935
01:53:25,510 --> 01:53:24,400
dropped about the aliens even though now

2936
01:53:27,430 --> 01:53:25,520
it appears that we're not going to get

2937
01:53:28,709 --> 01:53:27,440
proof of the aliens

2938
01:53:29,910 --> 01:53:28,719
and uh

2939
01:53:31,990 --> 01:53:29,920
you know i don't know what i can say

2940
01:53:33,910 --> 01:53:32,000
about this story except i feel sorry for

2941
01:53:37,270 --> 01:53:33,920
her because she's going to get hammered

2942
01:53:38,629 --> 01:53:37,280
now uh right or wrong worthy deserving

2943
01:53:40,550 --> 01:53:38,639
or not

2944
01:53:43,030 --> 01:53:40,560
she's definitely going to get hammered

2945
01:53:45,030 --> 01:53:43,040
uh especially by the critics who's who

2946
01:53:48,070 --> 01:53:45,040
said this was going to happen

2947
01:53:49,990 --> 01:53:48,080
i said hey i hope that she really does

2948
01:53:51,750 --> 01:53:50,000
provide the proof but

2949
01:53:52,950 --> 01:53:51,760
i wasn't going to hold my breath waiting

2950
01:53:55,669 --> 01:53:52,960
for

2951
01:53:57,910 --> 01:53:55,679
the proof of the aliens right

2952
01:53:59,350 --> 01:53:57,920
i had a feeling that something like this

2953
01:54:02,229 --> 01:53:59,360
may happen

2954
01:54:03,430 --> 01:54:02,239
or some other you know delay stall

2955
01:54:06,390 --> 01:54:03,440
tactics

2956
01:54:08,950 --> 01:54:06,400
excuses for why she couldn't do what she

2957
01:54:10,709 --> 01:54:08,960
originally said she was going to do

2958
01:54:12,229 --> 01:54:10,719
um but we'll explore more of this

2959
01:54:13,830 --> 01:54:12,239
tomorrow

2960
01:54:15,430 --> 01:54:13,840
after i have

2961
01:54:17,109 --> 01:54:15,440
some time to

2962
01:54:19,109 --> 01:54:17,119
watch the entire thing that just

2963
01:54:21,990 --> 01:54:19,119
happened if you want to check it out

2964
01:54:24,149 --> 01:54:22,000
it's on aliengirl111 just put alien girl

2965
01:54:25,910 --> 01:54:24,159
1-1-1 in the search bar

2966
01:54:27,350 --> 01:54:25,920
and that will

2967
01:54:29,350 --> 01:54:27,360
you'll be able to hear what happened

2968
01:54:30,550 --> 01:54:29,360
tonight and everybody on your phone

2969
01:54:31,910 --> 01:54:30,560
twitter and other

2970
01:54:33,830 --> 01:54:31,920
you know people are talking about it

2971
01:54:35,589 --> 01:54:33,840
already i'm glad that i could

2972
01:54:37,350 --> 01:54:35,599
uh be a part of it i almost didn't

2973
01:54:39,270 --> 01:54:37,360
because i was busy and i have to do my

2974
01:54:41,669 --> 01:54:39,280
own show but i thought

2975
01:54:44,310 --> 01:54:41,679
uh no i've been trying to

2976
01:54:45,669 --> 01:54:44,320
sort of get alienatic to be a guest here

2977
01:54:47,270 --> 01:54:45,679
so i thought it was a good opportunity

2978
01:54:48,709 --> 01:54:47,280
to reach out or he's trying to get me to

2979
01:54:51,189 --> 01:54:48,719
be a guest

2980
01:54:52,790 --> 01:54:51,199
and then you know uh and then anjali

2981
01:54:55,189 --> 01:54:52,800
just happened to be in the live chat and

2982
01:54:57,109 --> 01:54:55,199
just come on to the stream uh which was

2983
01:54:58,709 --> 01:54:57,119
unexpected and then

2984
01:54:59,990 --> 01:54:58,719
you know i had to jump out early to do

2985
01:55:01,750 --> 01:55:00,000
the show here

2986
01:55:03,189 --> 01:55:01,760
but i didn't want to cancel or push back

2987
01:55:05,430 --> 01:55:03,199
the interview we had an interview

2988
01:55:08,310 --> 01:55:05,440
schedule with rachel here and i never

2989
01:55:10,390 --> 01:55:08,320
i never cancel an interview with a guest

2990
01:55:13,910 --> 01:55:10,400
or i try my very best never to ever do

2991
01:55:18,629 --> 01:55:16,870
yeah success says

2992
01:55:20,790 --> 01:55:18,639
this may be fair she's a liar i don't

2993
01:55:22,950 --> 01:55:20,800
think there's any dale and her believing

2994
01:55:24,629 --> 01:55:22,960
it is real a sign of a pathological liar

2995
01:55:25,830 --> 01:55:24,639
they believe their own lies

2996
01:55:27,510 --> 01:55:25,840
could be

2997
01:55:34,070 --> 01:55:27,520
yeah

2998
01:55:35,750 --> 01:55:34,080
very disappointing why because many

2999
01:55:37,669 --> 01:55:35,760
people you know

3000
01:55:39,270 --> 01:55:37,679
you know what i thought i thought i'll

3001
01:55:41,350 --> 01:55:39,280
hope for the best but i'm expect the

3002
01:55:42,310 --> 01:55:41,360
worst and

3003
01:55:45,270 --> 01:55:42,320
you know

3004
01:55:47,669 --> 01:55:45,280
but there's many other people

3005
01:55:50,229 --> 01:55:47,679
really really believed her

3006
01:55:51,669 --> 01:55:50,239
and really really had these huge hopes

3007
01:55:54,149 --> 01:55:51,679
that she was going to give us the proof

3008
01:55:56,070 --> 01:55:54,159
of the absolute indus

3009
01:55:58,709 --> 01:55:56,080
you know

3010
01:56:01,030 --> 01:55:58,719
the absolute proof of aliens 100 percent

3011
01:56:03,030 --> 01:56:01,040
proof that no one could argue with by

3012
01:56:05,350 --> 01:56:03,040
the end of the year and then we'd have

3013
01:56:07,910 --> 01:56:05,360
disclosure and everybody would be happy

3014
01:56:08,870 --> 01:56:07,920
that once disclosure whatever that is

3015
01:56:09,750 --> 01:56:08,880
now

3016
01:56:11,109 --> 01:56:09,760
um

3017
01:56:12,390 --> 01:56:11,119
depends on who you ask for the

3018
01:56:14,629 --> 01:56:12,400
definition

3019
01:56:16,470 --> 01:56:14,639
you know we've got david wilcock and

3020
01:56:18,390 --> 01:56:16,480
other clowns running around saying

3021
01:56:21,030 --> 01:56:18,400
disclosure already happened and i'm

3022
01:56:22,950 --> 01:56:21,040
going to sell it to you for 333

3023
01:56:25,589 --> 01:56:22,960
well if it already happened why do i got

3024
01:56:28,310 --> 01:56:25,599
to pay that claim 333 to get the

3025
01:56:29,990 --> 01:56:28,320
disclosure that already happened

3026
01:56:32,950 --> 01:56:30,000
to me that's

3027
01:56:34,310 --> 01:56:32,960
kind of suspect right mr snake oil but

3028
01:56:35,270 --> 01:56:34,320
it is what it is

3029
01:56:38,870 --> 01:56:35,280
and

3030
01:56:42,629 --> 01:56:38,880
this is where we find ourselves tomorrow

3031
01:56:43,910 --> 01:56:42,639
after i i had plans uh

3032
01:56:46,149 --> 01:56:43,920
tomorrow

3033
01:56:48,070 --> 01:56:46,159
after i have had time to

3034
01:56:50,470 --> 01:56:48,080
listen to the rest of what was said

3035
01:56:53,589 --> 01:56:50,480
after i left the stream

3036
01:56:55,030 --> 01:56:53,599
um i'm gonna make some notes and we are

3037
01:56:58,070 --> 01:56:55,040
going to

3038
01:57:00,390 --> 01:56:58,080
more fully explore the angeline story

3039
01:57:01,430 --> 01:57:00,400
and latest developments

3040
01:57:03,430 --> 01:57:01,440
um

3041
01:57:05,109 --> 01:57:03,440
and that's all we can do

3042
01:57:07,270 --> 01:57:05,119
people are asking me instantly like you

3043
01:57:08,950 --> 01:57:07,280
gotta do a show on this and i said i've

3044
01:57:10,790 --> 01:57:08,960
got an interview already scheduled for

3045
01:57:12,790 --> 01:57:10,800
tonight i'm not gonna

3046
01:57:15,030 --> 01:57:12,800
cancel or change it we'll do this

3047
01:57:16,709 --> 01:57:15,040
tomorrow so tomorrow night

3048
01:57:17,990 --> 01:57:16,719
oh i've got another interview scheduled

3049
01:57:19,430 --> 01:57:18,000
tomorrow night so i'm gonna have to do

3050
01:57:21,270 --> 01:57:19,440
this one i'm gonna have to do this

3051
01:57:23,430 --> 01:57:21,280
tomorrow afternoon then

3052
01:57:26,629 --> 01:57:23,440
um and we'll do a double shot of truth

3053
01:57:28,390 --> 01:57:26,639
seekers tomorrow one show about the

3054
01:57:31,270 --> 01:57:28,400
anjali and the latest anjali

3055
01:57:34,070 --> 01:57:31,280
developments will invite panel members

3056
01:57:34,870 --> 01:57:34,080
to discuss what happened

3057
01:57:36,790 --> 01:57:34,880
and

3058
01:57:39,109 --> 01:57:36,800
you are most welcome to be here ask

3059
01:57:41,189 --> 01:57:39,119
comments questions in the live chat

3060
01:57:41,990 --> 01:57:41,199
we are going to fully explore all of

3061
01:57:45,109 --> 01:57:42,000
that

3062
01:57:47,350 --> 01:57:45,119
evil dead ed el jefe is here and says

3063
01:57:49,510 --> 01:57:47,360
what's up steve what's up evil dead ed

3064
01:57:50,870 --> 01:57:49,520
el jefe good to see you here in the live

3065
01:57:53,030 --> 01:57:50,880
chat

3066
01:57:54,709 --> 01:57:53,040
so we've got not many people in the live

3067
01:57:56,070 --> 01:57:54,719
chat um

3068
01:57:58,229 --> 01:57:56,080
i'm going to give some shout outs shout

3069
01:57:59,669 --> 01:57:58,239
out to prank magic rebecca turner shout

3070
01:58:03,750 --> 01:57:59,679
out to

3071
01:58:06,550 --> 01:58:03,760
moretz

3072
01:58:10,550 --> 01:58:06,560
uh shout out to spooky shout out to out

3073
01:58:12,470 --> 01:58:10,560
of mind shout out to grandmaster uv

3074
01:58:15,109 --> 01:58:12,480
uh

3075
01:58:16,870 --> 01:58:15,119
and let me see who else do we have in

3076
01:58:18,550 --> 01:58:16,880
here

3077
01:58:21,109 --> 01:58:18,560
shout out to cosmic neighbors ron from

3078
01:58:21,990 --> 01:58:21,119
cosmic neighbors is here shout out ron

3079
01:58:24,550 --> 01:58:22,000
uh

3080
01:58:28,149 --> 01:58:24,560
yeah alien scientist is here shout out

3081
01:58:32,790 --> 01:58:30,270
and again spooky is here

3082
01:58:37,350 --> 01:58:32,800
lynette411 holding down the twitch chat

3083
01:58:41,830 --> 01:58:39,990
and indigo has an interesting point dmt

3084
01:58:43,830 --> 01:58:41,840
isn't just naturally at least in a body

3085
01:58:46,229 --> 01:58:43,840
at insane times like that she's either a

3086
01:58:49,109 --> 01:58:46,239
liar or schizo or both you shouldn't

3087
01:58:51,350 --> 01:58:49,119
have dignified her bs with an interview

3088
01:58:52,790 --> 01:58:51,360
well we'll agree to disagree i thought

3089
01:58:54,629 --> 01:58:52,800
the story was interesting especially

3090
01:58:57,270 --> 01:58:54,639
giving her given her military and

3091
01:58:58,629 --> 01:58:57,280
defense intelligence agency background

3092
01:59:00,709 --> 01:58:58,639
i thought the story was interesting

3093
01:59:02,790 --> 01:59:00,719
enough to at least give her an interview

3094
01:59:03,669 --> 01:59:02,800
and try to learn more

3095
01:59:05,589 --> 01:59:03,679
right

3096
01:59:07,910 --> 01:59:05,599
uh but that's just me everybody's

3097
01:59:10,229 --> 01:59:07,920
entitled to their own opinion uh shout

3098
01:59:11,350 --> 01:59:10,239
out to redstorm1 is here shout out to

3099
01:59:14,550 --> 01:59:11,360
blue

3100
01:59:16,950 --> 01:59:14,560
570 is here

3101
01:59:18,950 --> 01:59:16,960
um

3102
01:59:21,270 --> 01:59:18,960
and i think that's everybody i can only

3103
01:59:23,990 --> 01:59:21,280
go so far shout out to brock landers

3104
01:59:25,830 --> 01:59:24,000
brock landers is here

3105
01:59:27,430 --> 01:59:25,840
brock lander says drink some ginger tea

3106
01:59:28,550 --> 01:59:27,440
with honey dude i'm drinking tea with

3107
01:59:30,870 --> 01:59:28,560
honey and

3108
01:59:32,629 --> 01:59:30,880
lemon right now and yes it does help it

3109
01:59:34,790 --> 01:59:32,639
clears the threat the phlegm and

3110
01:59:36,070 --> 01:59:34,800
everything from your throat so i'm able

3111
01:59:36,950 --> 01:59:36,080
to keep going

3112
01:59:38,149 --> 01:59:36,960
um

3113
01:59:40,310 --> 01:59:38,159
you know i used to have a job where i

3114
01:59:42,550 --> 01:59:40,320
had to talk on the phone all day long

3115
01:59:44,550 --> 01:59:42,560
and i hated getting sick because you

3116
01:59:48,709 --> 01:59:44,560
know you need your voice shout out to

3117
01:59:54,149 --> 01:59:50,709
and i'm in the same boat now you know i

3118
01:59:55,910 --> 01:59:54,159
need my voice to do shows and it's

3119
01:59:58,390 --> 01:59:55,920
i don't want to cry too much because all

3120
02:00:00,229 --> 01:59:58,400
i have is a man cold but we all know how

3121
02:00:01,910 --> 02:00:00,239
terrible man colds could be especially

3122
02:00:03,030 --> 02:00:01,920
all you ladies that have men in your

3123
02:00:04,629 --> 02:00:03,040
lives

3124
02:00:05,830 --> 02:00:04,639
the worst thing in the world is a man

3125
02:00:07,910 --> 02:00:05,840
with a cold

3126
02:00:11,990 --> 02:00:07,920
we cry like babies

3127
02:00:14,709 --> 02:00:13,669
so we're going to wrap things up here

3128
02:00:16,070 --> 02:00:14,719
friends

3129
02:00:17,910 --> 02:00:16,080
i want to thank our incredible guest

3130
02:00:21,030 --> 02:00:17,920
tonight rachel

3131
02:00:23,589 --> 02:00:21,040
hoffman from paranormal expeditions

3132
02:00:25,430 --> 02:00:23,599
and the movie the house that eats flesh

3133
02:00:27,510 --> 02:00:25,440
as well as a few other movies and

3134
02:00:29,830 --> 02:00:27,520
television shows she's working on a

3135
02:00:32,950 --> 02:00:29,840
great deal of stuff

3136
02:00:35,109 --> 02:00:32,960
oh and shout out to evil dead ed el jefe

3137
02:00:36,950 --> 02:00:35,119
who says your great interview i enjoyed

3138
02:00:38,550 --> 02:00:36,960
your lauren session great thanks for

3139
02:00:39,589 --> 02:00:38,560
being here and i appreciate your

3140
02:00:41,189 --> 02:00:39,599
kindness

3141
02:00:43,830 --> 02:00:41,199
and i want to thank everybody for

3142
02:00:45,350 --> 02:00:43,840
attending tonight especially because

3143
02:00:47,270 --> 02:00:45,360
yeah look i've come to accept that

3144
02:00:49,830 --> 02:00:47,280
majorly people come here to hear me talk

3145
02:00:53,990 --> 02:00:49,840
about ufos and hear my guests talk about

3146
02:00:57,270 --> 02:00:54,000
ufos but i never set out to do just ufos

3147
02:00:58,390 --> 02:00:57,280
i'm interested in demons and ghosts and

3148
02:01:00,390 --> 02:00:58,400
uh

3149
02:01:02,310 --> 02:01:00,400
cryptic creatures and all manner of

3150
02:01:04,550 --> 02:01:02,320
paranormal events

3151
02:01:06,149 --> 02:01:04,560
besides ufos so every once in a while

3152
02:01:08,790 --> 02:01:06,159
we're going to throw your curveball and

3153
02:01:11,669 --> 02:01:08,800
i hope that you will you know i hope

3154
02:01:15,990 --> 02:01:11,679
that you guys will indulge me

3155
02:01:17,669 --> 02:01:16,000
and be okay with me doing that uh

3156
02:01:19,109 --> 02:01:17,679
i can't just talk about ufos there's not

3157
02:01:21,270 --> 02:01:19,119
enough to talk about i don't care what

3158
02:01:23,589 --> 02:01:21,280
anybody says i know some guys do shows

3159
02:01:25,910 --> 02:01:23,599
seven days a week about ufos

3160
02:01:27,750 --> 02:01:25,920
i don't want to do that uh i don't think

3161
02:01:32,070 --> 02:01:27,760
that is a good

3162
02:01:34,550 --> 02:01:32,080
if it's a good plan for them good for

3163
02:01:35,990 --> 02:01:34,560
them i'm not going to do that rebecca

3164
02:01:37,350 --> 02:01:36,000
turner says thanks steven good

3165
02:01:39,350 --> 02:01:37,360
interviewing it was interesting i used

3166
02:01:41,990 --> 02:01:39,360
to be really into that stuff yeah me too

3167
02:01:43,669 --> 02:01:42,000
right and lee guy is here and says god i

3168
02:01:47,350 --> 02:01:43,679
work phones now and i hate it thank god

3169
02:01:49,510 --> 02:01:47,360
for caffeine nicotine and lexapro

3170
02:01:51,510 --> 02:01:49,520
yeah you gotta do something to survive

3171
02:01:53,030 --> 02:01:51,520
to survive corporate cubicle land that's

3172
02:01:54,229 --> 02:01:53,040
what i did

3173
02:01:55,910 --> 02:01:54,239
but i

3174
02:01:57,669 --> 02:01:55,920
uh

3175
02:01:58,709 --> 02:01:57,679
for me it was caffeine nicotine and

3176
02:02:00,629 --> 02:01:58,719
green

3177
02:02:03,669 --> 02:02:00,639
but don't tell my boss i haven't worked

3178
02:02:06,870 --> 02:02:03,679
there in ages you can tell it's okay

3179
02:02:10,070 --> 02:02:06,880
i had let's just say i had salad for

3180
02:02:13,750 --> 02:02:10,080
lunch lee guy i had salad at every break

3181
02:02:15,990 --> 02:02:13,760
lee guy right have to do something

3182
02:02:17,669 --> 02:02:16,000
to sit in a cubicle for 10 or 12 hours a

3183
02:02:19,270 --> 02:02:17,679
day you got to do something

3184
02:02:20,790 --> 02:02:19,280
right

3185
02:02:23,109 --> 02:02:20,800
to keep yourself and want to blow your

3186
02:02:25,189 --> 02:02:23,119
brains out right i'm so glad i'm never

3187
02:02:27,270 --> 02:02:25,199
going back to a cubicle

3188
02:02:28,950 --> 02:02:27,280
ever again in my life i'm just i will

3189
02:02:30,950 --> 02:02:28,960
never will never say never if my

3190
02:02:33,189 --> 02:02:30,960
children were hungry and that was all i

3191
02:02:35,510 --> 02:02:33,199
could do to feed them i would do it

3192
02:02:37,990 --> 02:02:35,520
but hopefully it never comes to that you

3193
02:02:38,709 --> 02:02:38,000
know i much prefer working for myself

3194
02:02:41,270 --> 02:02:38,719
than

3195
02:02:42,950 --> 02:02:41,280
working for somebody else

3196
02:02:44,390 --> 02:02:42,960
so what can i say friends this is where

3197
02:02:45,830 --> 02:02:44,400
we find ourselves tomorrow we're going

3198
02:02:48,629 --> 02:02:45,840
to have two shows we're going to have a

3199
02:02:50,229 --> 02:02:48,639
show on anjali in the early afternoon

3200
02:02:52,390 --> 02:02:50,239
hopefully and then we're also going to

3201
02:02:54,950 --> 02:02:52,400
have a show

3202
02:02:59,270 --> 02:02:54,960
with the

3203
02:03:00,550 --> 02:02:59,280
one and the only author of the blog bad

3204
02:03:06,070 --> 02:03:00,560
ufos

3205
02:03:07,830 --> 02:03:06,080
is awesome because it's a skeptical site

3206
02:03:09,669 --> 02:03:07,840
but

3207
02:03:13,430 --> 02:03:09,679
we get to

3208
02:03:15,109 --> 02:03:13,440
explore

3209
02:03:21,430 --> 02:03:15,119
a lot more

3210
02:03:22,550 --> 02:03:21,440
some of the skeptics

3211
02:03:25,030 --> 02:03:22,560
you know

3212
02:03:27,350 --> 02:03:25,040
one of the big problems is that some

3213
02:03:29,270 --> 02:03:27,360
people are just too believing

3214
02:03:31,990 --> 02:03:29,280
and

3215
02:03:34,229 --> 02:03:32,000
you know i i can't tell you uh you know

3216
02:03:35,510 --> 02:03:34,239
robert shaffer will be here

3217
02:03:37,669 --> 02:03:35,520
tomorrow

3218
02:03:40,070 --> 02:03:37,679
at 9 00 p.m eastern standard time he's

3219
02:03:44,070 --> 02:03:40,080
the author of the block banned ufos and

3220
02:03:46,470 --> 02:03:44,080
he has revealed and a lot of scammers

3221
02:03:49,189 --> 02:03:46,480
and fake stories over the years

3222
02:03:50,470 --> 02:03:49,199
i think it's a valuable resource and uh

3223
02:03:52,310 --> 02:03:50,480
often

3224
02:03:53,750 --> 02:03:52,320
thankless job in the community to do

3225
02:03:56,870 --> 02:03:53,760
that kind of work

3226
02:03:58,709 --> 02:03:56,880
so for me i'm happy to be able to talk

3227
02:04:01,910 --> 02:03:58,719
to him more learn more about his work

3228
02:04:03,589 --> 02:04:01,920
and what got him so interested and what

3229
02:04:06,870 --> 02:04:03,599
is really what i consider a public

3230
02:04:09,910 --> 02:04:06,880
service that he does showing people

3231
02:04:11,830 --> 02:04:09,920
you know ufos that are fake or cgi and

3232
02:04:14,629 --> 02:04:11,840
how he figured that out

3233
02:04:16,470 --> 02:04:14,639
it's a great resource

3234
02:04:18,790 --> 02:04:16,480
so that's where rap friends please join

3235
02:04:20,229 --> 02:04:18,800
me tomorrow for a double shot of truth

3236
02:04:21,910 --> 02:04:20,239
seekers uh

3237
02:04:23,510 --> 02:04:21,920
that's the way we got to do it i'm gonna

3238
02:04:25,350 --> 02:04:23,520
power through it even though i'm sick

3239
02:04:26,229 --> 02:04:25,360
and would rather not do one show let

3240
02:04:27,430 --> 02:04:26,239
alone

3241
02:04:29,830 --> 02:04:27,440
two but

3242
02:04:31,109 --> 02:04:29,840
um i don't want to leave this angelis

3243
02:04:32,629 --> 02:04:31,119
situation

3244
02:04:35,669 --> 02:04:32,639
you know

3245
02:04:37,589 --> 02:04:35,679
if i do people will suspect things and

3246
02:04:39,510 --> 02:04:37,599
you know start speculating about why i

3247
02:04:40,790 --> 02:04:39,520
haven't done a show about it or whatever

3248
02:04:41,669 --> 02:04:40,800
so we're going to do it we'll get it

3249
02:04:42,629 --> 02:04:41,679
done

3250
02:04:45,030 --> 02:04:42,639
and

3251
02:04:47,350 --> 02:04:45,040
you know i appreciate everybody who

3252
02:04:49,750 --> 02:04:47,360
wants to hear from me on this so much i

3253
02:04:52,069 --> 02:04:49,760
might i got a whole bunch of emails dms

3254
02:04:54,310 --> 02:04:52,079
and pms already from people watching

3255
02:04:55,430 --> 02:04:54,320
that earlier stream so we'll cover it

3256
02:04:56,950 --> 02:04:55,440
tomorrow

3257
02:04:58,470 --> 02:04:56,960
i always say this friends i'm always

3258
02:05:00,550 --> 02:04:58,480
happy when there's an audience thank you

3259
02:05:02,870 --> 02:05:00,560
for being a part of mine if you are

3260
02:05:05,189 --> 02:05:02,880
listening in the audio podcast

3261
02:05:07,430 --> 02:05:05,199
realm be sure to come over to youtube

3262
02:05:09,910 --> 02:05:07,440
smash that subscribe button just put

3263
02:05:12,149 --> 02:05:09,920
truth seekers one word into the search

3264
02:05:14,149 --> 02:05:12,159
bar in youtube look for me stephen

3265
02:05:16,950 --> 02:05:14,159
campion your host the strange guy in

3266
02:05:19,750 --> 02:05:16,960
sunglasses smash that subscribe button

3267
02:05:21,589 --> 02:05:19,760
hit that notification

3268
02:05:23,910 --> 02:05:21,599
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3269
02:05:26,390 --> 02:05:23,920
part of our live interactive chats while

3270
02:05:28,470 --> 02:05:26,400
we do the live tapings that end up

3271
02:05:30,390 --> 02:05:28,480
becoming the audio podcast if you're

3272
02:05:32,390 --> 02:05:30,400
listening to the audio podcast you're

3273
02:05:34,149 --> 02:05:32,400
you're missing half the fun come on over

3274
02:05:36,470 --> 02:05:34,159
here to youtube search truth seekers

3275
02:05:38,470 --> 02:05:36,480
find us subscribe hit the notification

3276
02:05:40,310 --> 02:05:38,480
bell you'll be glad you did we have a

3277
02:05:42,470 --> 02:05:40,320
very welcoming crowd here you're most

3278
02:05:44,950 --> 02:05:42,480
welcome here in the live chat and all

3279
02:05:46,870 --> 02:05:44,960
are welcome skeptics believers or anyone

3280
02:05:49,109 --> 02:05:46,880
in between

3281
02:05:51,830 --> 02:05:49,119
and uh finally just a point to remind

3282
02:05:54,229 --> 02:05:51,840
everybody uh another way that you can

3283
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support the show is to like comment

3284
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subscribe and share

3285
02:05:59,109 --> 02:05:57,679
send our channel link to some of your

3286
02:06:00,950 --> 02:05:59,119
friends who are interested in these

3287
02:06:02,629 --> 02:06:00,960
topics send some of our videos to your

3288
02:06:03,910 --> 02:06:02,639
friends post them on your facebook your

3289
02:06:05,270 --> 02:06:03,920
instagram

3290
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uh your

3291
02:06:10,790 --> 02:06:07,840
twitter anywhere that you can post these

3292
02:06:12,950 --> 02:06:10,800
links it would help us for you to do so

3293
02:06:14,870 --> 02:06:12,960
and i appreciate all the people who are

3294
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retweeting and posting my links on

3295
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facebook and instagram and other places

3296
02:06:22,629 --> 02:06:20,000
i see you all doing that and it puts a

3297
02:06:23,990 --> 02:06:22,639
smile on my face so please try and do

3298
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more of it

3299
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so what can i say friends until next

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time

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my name is steven cambion good night and

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god bless all of you